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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deni D" data-source="post: 764221" data-attributes="member: 22840">Katie, so sorry you are going through this. 23 is young but old enough to wreck havoc as you well know. It sounds like he has taken over. It's not a good situation for you and also your daughter. Do you have other children in the house too? I had to have my son removed from my home years ago and it was terrible. I think it was worse on me than it was on him. And he just had to go live somewhere else. My son was going to be in control here and do whatever he wanted and that was that, there was no reasoning with him. Does he work or go to college at all? Does he have a male roll model in his life?</blockquote>