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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 766010" data-attributes="member: 18958">Hi BetaThank you for your loving and thoughtful reply. I have been thinking a lot about Divine Grace. It's something I don't leave enough room for because I only came to be devout in my religion about 8 years ago. While this has changed everything for me, I am still in elementary school, so to speak.Each of us struggles in ways that other people and even us sometimes, feel there is not a lot of hope. My therapist the other day used the words &quot;Divine intervention&quot; that nothing in this world coming from my son looked like he was showing any indication of wanting to or being able to live differently. I think he meant it this way, short of Divine Intervention, nothing would change. It was a way to say it was going to take a miracle. Needless to say, I felt bad. My Rabbi, too, feels this way, about my son. It's hard for me.Of course, this is the worst possible feeling. It would mean &quot;no hope.&quot;&nbsp; How many times on this board I have written hope is ours to have That our children don't carry all of the hope.&nbsp; But there is this place in me that despairs when I see and feel &quot;no hope&quot; from him or for him. But HIM. That's another story altogether.What I am saying here is I see now that this is the place where G-d is. This is where G-d works.&nbsp; And this is where faith lies. This is where I can make a clear, clean, deep relationship with G-d. And I can then, hold this place. And meet my son with love, not rigidity, boundaries, distance, the hard place. And in the same way, you can do the same in you. Fill that place of despair with God's love and Grace. I don't yet know how to do it, but I will try. Love Copa</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 766010, member: 18958"] Hi Beta Thank you for your loving and thoughtful reply. I have been thinking a lot about Divine Grace. It's something I don't leave enough room for because I only came to be devout in my religion about 8 years ago. While this has changed everything for me, I am still in elementary school, so to speak. Each of us struggles in ways that other people and even us sometimes, feel there is not a lot of hope. My therapist the other day used the words "Divine intervention" that nothing in this world coming from my son looked like he was showing any indication of wanting to or being able to live differently. I think he meant it this way, short of Divine Intervention, nothing would change. It was a way to say it was going to take a miracle. Needless to say, I felt bad. My Rabbi, too, feels this way, about my son. It's hard for me. Of course, this is the worst possible feeling. It would mean "no hope." How many times on this board I have written hope is ours to have That our children don't carry all of the hope. But there is this place in me that despairs when I see and feel "no hope" from him or for him. But HIM. That's another story altogether. What I am saying here is I see now that this is the place where G-d is. This is where G-d works. And this is where faith lies. This is where I can make a clear, clean, deep relationship with G-d. And I can then, hold this place. And meet my son with love, not rigidity, boundaries, distance, the hard place. And in the same way, you can do the same in you. Fill that place of despair with God's love and Grace. I don't yet know how to do it, but I will try. Love Copa [/QUOTE]

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