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<blockquote data-quote="LoonyAlana" data-source="post: 635109" data-attributes="member: 17555"><p>I tried 1-2-3 magic back when he was going through playtherapy when he was younger. Basically, when he's melting down- there is no reasoning, no ability to make him do any version of a 'time out'. As it is, I try to 'restrain him' with 'hug therapy' where I am just trying to keep him from hurting himself and others, but even then he'll actively try to headbutt you to force you to let him go, spit on you, scream at the top of his lungs, kick, bite... and he'll do this nonstop for HOURS. No joke, no exaggeration. HOURS of crying and throwing and destruction and trying to cause pain. I can't reason with him, I can't talk to him, I can't make him sit in one spot for 10 seconds even when he's in a good mood, let alone a meltdown. I would need a straight jacket and gurney with restraints to get him to sit still for even 1 minute. He's 6 now, and his Oppositional Defiance Disorder will cause him to purposefully break rules. Even little ones. If I ask him to shut the door, he'll open it wider and run and hide under my bed. If I want to clean the poop off his butt, (like last night) it takes a full hour of practically sitting on him so he doesn't hurt me or anyone else or himself until I can calm him down enough to wipe his bottom. And I can't trust him to wipe his bottom, because he'll just sit in his own filth, lie about not being dirty and get constant strep infections on his bottom (did you know you can get strep butt?) because he refuses to even allow others to clean it.</p><p></p><p>We have poo all over everything: walls, TVs, beds, pillows, couches... we can't clean enough to keep up with him, because we're already spending so much time trying to keep him from punching his older brother or me. Or biting me... it really hurts when he bites, took like 3 weeks for the last bite bruise to go away.</p><p></p><p>Pretty much tons of the things play therapy suggested: 1-2-3 Magic, "if you choose ____, then you choose ____", reward charts, taking toys away, taking privledges away... even things like bribing, deals... trying to delay gratification for even 1 minute, 'hug jail', talking softly, talking loudly, spanking... none of these things work. Not even 1 time. He'll even start spanking himself and saying how much he likes it. If we threaten to take a toy away, he'll break it and throw it away then blame us and take it out on us even worse for the next week.</p><p></p><p>But, keep the suggestions coming. If it's something we haven't tried, I am totally game. I'd LOVE to find something even if it just worked one single time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LoonyAlana, post: 635109, member: 17555"] I tried 1-2-3 magic back when he was going through playtherapy when he was younger. Basically, when he's melting down- there is no reasoning, no ability to make him do any version of a 'time out'. As it is, I try to 'restrain him' with 'hug therapy' where I am just trying to keep him from hurting himself and others, but even then he'll actively try to headbutt you to force you to let him go, spit on you, scream at the top of his lungs, kick, bite... and he'll do this nonstop for HOURS. No joke, no exaggeration. HOURS of crying and throwing and destruction and trying to cause pain. I can't reason with him, I can't talk to him, I can't make him sit in one spot for 10 seconds even when he's in a good mood, let alone a meltdown. I would need a straight jacket and gurney with restraints to get him to sit still for even 1 minute. He's 6 now, and his Oppositional Defiance Disorder will cause him to purposefully break rules. Even little ones. If I ask him to shut the door, he'll open it wider and run and hide under my bed. If I want to clean the poop off his butt, (like last night) it takes a full hour of practically sitting on him so he doesn't hurt me or anyone else or himself until I can calm him down enough to wipe his bottom. And I can't trust him to wipe his bottom, because he'll just sit in his own filth, lie about not being dirty and get constant strep infections on his bottom (did you know you can get strep butt?) because he refuses to even allow others to clean it. We have poo all over everything: walls, TVs, beds, pillows, couches... we can't clean enough to keep up with him, because we're already spending so much time trying to keep him from punching his older brother or me. Or biting me... it really hurts when he bites, took like 3 weeks for the last bite bruise to go away. Pretty much tons of the things play therapy suggested: 1-2-3 Magic, "if you choose ____, then you choose ____", reward charts, taking toys away, taking privledges away... even things like bribing, deals... trying to delay gratification for even 1 minute, 'hug jail', talking softly, talking loudly, spanking... none of these things work. Not even 1 time. He'll even start spanking himself and saying how much he likes it. If we threaten to take a toy away, he'll break it and throw it away then blame us and take it out on us even worse for the next week. But, keep the suggestions coming. If it's something we haven't tried, I am totally game. I'd LOVE to find something even if it just worked one single time. [/QUOTE]
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