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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 680207" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>i cannot get quote to work on this stupid tablet.</p><p></p><p>You question cedar, if there was indeed collusion by the father, to sell out Joseph. You ask the central question of how joseph could maintain true to himself and who he was despite everything in his circumstances, indeed, reality, insisting otherwise. you point to his negating a vengeful will to define as wrong and to punish those who betrayed him.</p><p></p><p>that he never did betray himself is the pivot point that maintained his strength and clarity. </p><p></p><p>he never did see himself as either a victim or seek power through victim status, defining enemies, or making anybody wrong. as long as he spoke his own truth and did not take on the prejudice and viewpoints of others, he had no reason to empower or disempower anybody.</p><p></p><p>joseph could have turned against his father, to have seen him as colluding. after all, any child would wish to see a parent as fighting to save him, believe in him, despite all appearance of defeat or death. there are parents who do this, of course.</p><p></p><p>i am thinking of kermit oliver the texan artist commissioned by hermes to be the only american designer ever of their iconic scarves. how i wanted one!! filled with cowboys and indians and turkeys and cacti. the most beautiful representations of the american spirit as i can remember having seen. oliver racially and ethnically that amalgam of races and cultures of what was a southwest slave state.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 680207, member: 18958"] i cannot get quote to work on this stupid tablet. You question cedar, if there was indeed collusion by the father, to sell out Joseph. You ask the central question of how joseph could maintain true to himself and who he was despite everything in his circumstances, indeed, reality, insisting otherwise. you point to his negating a vengeful will to define as wrong and to punish those who betrayed him. that he never did betray himself is the pivot point that maintained his strength and clarity. he never did see himself as either a victim or seek power through victim status, defining enemies, or making anybody wrong. as long as he spoke his own truth and did not take on the prejudice and viewpoints of others, he had no reason to empower or disempower anybody. joseph could have turned against his father, to have seen him as colluding. after all, any child would wish to see a parent as fighting to save him, believe in him, despite all appearance of defeat or death. there are parents who do this, of course. i am thinking of kermit oliver the texan artist commissioned by hermes to be the only american designer ever of their iconic scarves. how i wanted one!! filled with cowboys and indians and turkeys and cacti. the most beautiful representations of the american spirit as i can remember having seen. oliver racially and ethnically that amalgam of races and cultures of what was a southwest slave state. [/QUOTE]
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