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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 766479" data-attributes="member: 18958">I think this is incredibly cruel. Heartless and cruel. Thank G-d everybody isn't this way.My son is mad at us. Why? Because he did not want to keep his agreement to us, what we asked in return for him to say in the apartment I own. Just basics. No drug use, no smoking, pay for utilities. So he left, he blocked me on his phone&nbsp;(through the holidays). He has not called. In the past when I ask about this kind of behavior he says, &quot;I was ashamed.&quot; I think when our sons think of us, they see themselves reflected. And I think they feel kind of disgusted&nbsp;with themselves. I think this floods them. They can't get beyond it. I will tell you what i think. My son uses libraries too. I am so grateful he has these safe places.I want to think of your Josh and my Joseph as having moments of safety and refuge. It matters not a bit to me at this point that Joseph doesn't call me. For most of my day I am able to feel safety myself, and not excruciating crippling fear.&nbsp; I am grateful for that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 766479, member: 18958"] I think this is incredibly cruel. Heartless and cruel. Thank G-d everybody isn't this way. My son is mad at us. Why? Because he did not want to keep his agreement to us, what we asked in return for him to say in the apartment I own. Just basics. No drug use, no smoking, pay for utilities. So he left, he blocked me on his phone (through the holidays). He has not called. In the past when I ask about this kind of behavior he says, "I was ashamed." I think when our sons think of us, they see themselves reflected. And I think they feel kind of disgusted with themselves. I think this floods them. They can't get beyond it. I will tell you what i think. My son uses libraries too. I am so grateful he has these safe places. I want to think of your Josh and my Joseph as having moments of safety and refuge. It matters not a bit to me at this point that Joseph doesn't call me. For most of my day I am able to feel safety myself, and not excruciating crippling fear. I am grateful for that. [/QUOTE]

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