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<blockquote data-quote="MuM_of_OCD_kiddo" data-source="post: 454071" data-attributes="member: 12241"><p>What I meant by >>> bipolar or similar personality disorders <<< is that either is difficult enough for both the actual person suffering from it, as well as the family members to deal with [regardless if it needs treatment with medications, which the person may refuse to take, or l.t. therapy - both require the cooperation and the honest desire for improvement and making lasting changes to be moderately successful]. Add to that any type of addiction, makes a positive outcome so much harder to achieve.</p><p></p><p>In regards to Poker games - what you said may hold true locally in your area or with online games [or might be what you have been told] - but in real life, with hard core poker players - this can be an entire different can of worms. 20 years ago I temporarily room-mated with an older gentleman who was addicted to poker and was hosting weekend long poker runs at our joint home. I have seen cars, boats, motorcycles, RVs and in one case real estate change ownership at the table; successful businesses impacted, IOU's traded back and forth and collected, girlfriend's and wife's "favors" traded in exchange for debts, the works. Yes - if you had to read the last part again - it's exactly what that implied!</p><p></p><p>I've seen paychecks thirdpartied out; big cash [seriously big cash] spend on an evening's fun and entertainment, I have seen grown men crying and afraid to go home to fess up that they lost their weeks or months earnings, I have seen wife's jewelry pass through my living room and worse. Poker games would start at 6 pm Friday nights and pretty much run into 3-4 on Sat. morning, resume Sat. afternoons through Sunday wee hours and some that couldn't get enough would come back in on Sunday afternoon as well. I wouldn't touch a for real gambler with a 10 foot pole!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MuM_of_OCD_kiddo, post: 454071, member: 12241"] What I meant by >>> bipolar or similar personality disorders <<< is that either is difficult enough for both the actual person suffering from it, as well as the family members to deal with [regardless if it needs treatment with medications, which the person may refuse to take, or l.t. therapy - both require the cooperation and the honest desire for improvement and making lasting changes to be moderately successful]. Add to that any type of addiction, makes a positive outcome so much harder to achieve. In regards to Poker games - what you said may hold true locally in your area or with online games [or might be what you have been told] - but in real life, with hard core poker players - this can be an entire different can of worms. 20 years ago I temporarily room-mated with an older gentleman who was addicted to poker and was hosting weekend long poker runs at our joint home. I have seen cars, boats, motorcycles, RVs and in one case real estate change ownership at the table; successful businesses impacted, IOU's traded back and forth and collected, girlfriend's and wife's "favors" traded in exchange for debts, the works. Yes - if you had to read the last part again - it's exactly what that implied! I've seen paychecks thirdpartied out; big cash [seriously big cash] spend on an evening's fun and entertainment, I have seen grown men crying and afraid to go home to fess up that they lost their weeks or months earnings, I have seen wife's jewelry pass through my living room and worse. Poker games would start at 6 pm Friday nights and pretty much run into 3-4 on Sat. morning, resume Sat. afternoons through Sunday wee hours and some that couldn't get enough would come back in on Sunday afternoon as well. I wouldn't touch a for real gambler with a 10 foot pole! [/QUOTE]
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