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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 742531" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Elsi, in my opinion you are the greatest addition to this forum in years. I agree with you too by the way. I have been guilty in the past of diagnosing but I was wrong. We cant even diagnose our own kids because NOBODY can. Not even the most esteemed psychiatrist is right maybe not even most of the time. Another esteemed psychiatrist can interpret the behavior way different. There is NO way to diagnose and PROVE ANY diagnosis. Remember not so long ago when autism was an incurable form of schizophrenia caused by "refrigerator moms?" That was maybe 50 years ago. My, my the DSM has changed 180 degrees regarding autism..</p><p></p><p> I could site many more examples of this flawed and ever changing diagnostic book that, yes, is often used for insurance coverage. Personality Disorders are a relatively NEW add on. Are they real? Will they be there in the Mighty DSM in ten years or will they be gone, understood to be something else? </p><p></p><p>It is theory. These symptoms equal this diagnosis this year, maybe not next year.</p><p></p><p>We only know for sure how somebody is behaving at this time and whether we can be a part of it or not. Thats all the truly concrete evidence of behavior that we have. Or maybe need.</p><p></p><p>I do believe some people have no empathy. I am fine not labeling such a person. I think some people have mood disorders. Since suddenly there are 6-10 types of bipolar in the DSM, I know my type can not be put into a box. In fact according to the faithful DSM I am classic Bipolar II and you should NEVER give sn antidrpressant to ANYONE with bipolar unless they are also on a mood stabilizer.</p><p></p><p>Baloney. There are NO absolutes in psychiatry yet. I am on an antidepressant alone, no more bad mood swings for close to twenty five years. Hate mood stabilizers. Dont need them. But according to the DSM I am bipolar II.</p><p></p><p>Psychiatry is hit or miss and patients are ginea pigs when it comes to medication and treatment.</p><p></p><p>We need to see our loved ones, flaws and all, without diagnosing them or believing every diagnoses they are given. The diagnoses jades us or guilts us and we cant see straight.</p><p></p><p>How about this regarding our kids? Who are they and how do they treat other people? That in my opinion is what matters and what we may be able to go by when we decide how to interact with beloved others, grown kids included.</p><p></p><p>Jmo. Not saying I am right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 742531, member: 1550"] Elsi, in my opinion you are the greatest addition to this forum in years. I agree with you too by the way. I have been guilty in the past of diagnosing but I was wrong. We cant even diagnose our own kids because NOBODY can. Not even the most esteemed psychiatrist is right maybe not even most of the time. Another esteemed psychiatrist can interpret the behavior way different. There is NO way to diagnose and PROVE ANY diagnosis. Remember not so long ago when autism was an incurable form of schizophrenia caused by "refrigerator moms?" That was maybe 50 years ago. My, my the DSM has changed 180 degrees regarding autism.. I could site many more examples of this flawed and ever changing diagnostic book that, yes, is often used for insurance coverage. Personality Disorders are a relatively NEW add on. Are they real? Will they be there in the Mighty DSM in ten years or will they be gone, understood to be something else? It is theory. These symptoms equal this diagnosis this year, maybe not next year. We only know for sure how somebody is behaving at this time and whether we can be a part of it or not. Thats all the truly concrete evidence of behavior that we have. Or maybe need. I do believe some people have no empathy. I am fine not labeling such a person. I think some people have mood disorders. Since suddenly there are 6-10 types of bipolar in the DSM, I know my type can not be put into a box. In fact according to the faithful DSM I am classic Bipolar II and you should NEVER give sn antidrpressant to ANYONE with bipolar unless they are also on a mood stabilizer. Baloney. There are NO absolutes in psychiatry yet. I am on an antidepressant alone, no more bad mood swings for close to twenty five years. Hate mood stabilizers. Dont need them. But according to the DSM I am bipolar II. Psychiatry is hit or miss and patients are ginea pigs when it comes to medication and treatment. We need to see our loved ones, flaws and all, without diagnosing them or believing every diagnoses they are given. The diagnoses jades us or guilts us and we cant see straight. How about this regarding our kids? Who are they and how do they treat other people? That in my opinion is what matters and what we may be able to go by when we decide how to interact with beloved others, grown kids included. Jmo. Not saying I am right. [/QUOTE]
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