Oh MWM, I think you've been bending over backwards to not offend... and I really appreciate it. 
You aren't wrong. (insert thoughtful look here) I can see your point of view. I'm not without some of the same thinking. He is working now. Get's paid for two days tonight...which galled him something awful because he won't be able to cash it until Friday. He is walking to work. I've given him two rides...once I offered and once he asked. At $8.50 an hour he will have a time saving up for an apartment, but we don't intend to chip in. He doesn't have a car and we don't intend to give him one. Yes...we've taken him to McDonalds a time or two...The cigarettes...well, until Thanksgiving when we quit, we were smokers. It just seemed kind of hypocritical to say, "Quit".
But I guess that's what started this whole thread. That I'd love to be able to be with my son like you are with Jumper. But giving him a burger one day tends to lead to him asked two days later. It's both annoying and disheartening.
