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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 325187" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>It's a bit complicated, this thing with Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids and lying. </p><p></p><p>It seems to come down to this rule following they have - they lern the rules they observe that work in the workd. So difficult child 3 learned that other kids could hit him and get away with it, but he couldn't hit back or he would get into trouble. Oftgen he would get into trouble anyway and when tis began to happen he began to hit other kids more, since he figured he was going to get into trouble anyway...</p><p></p><p>All kids try the "I didn't do it" kind of lie. Some Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids even find these kind of lies to be too difficult, they just feel too 'wrong". In the same way, ambiguity can upset these same kids. If you think about it, telling a lie can be like a crime against reality. difficult child 3 hasn't got a problem with this, difficult child 1 used to try to tell more complex lies along the lines of "The computer game was lent to me by my friend," when he had bought it with stolen money. So he had invented a lie but he hadn't thought about the entire spectrum of consequences (such as me asking his friend's mother if this was true).</p><p></p><p>I do think it is theoretically possible for a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid to tell a more complex lie. Especially a girl - Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) presents differently in girls, it can be tricky trying to pin down a diagnosis. Girls tend to be more complex in how their brains work anyway; even with her lies, I wouldn't rule out Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD). But I agree with you keeping an open mind re other diagnoses.</p><p></p><p>How do you know she is lying? Those who are best at lying, never get found out. Simply being found out in a lie is an indication that the liar is less successful at it. Telling a lie is a complex thing - you not only have to make the lie beleivable at the moment, but you have to be able to sustain the lie as well as craft the lie carefully so even cross-checking won't disclose that it is a lie. That is often too complex for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) people to do and sustain.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 325187, member: 1991"] It's a bit complicated, this thing with Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids and lying. It seems to come down to this rule following they have - they lern the rules they observe that work in the workd. So difficult child 3 learned that other kids could hit him and get away with it, but he couldn't hit back or he would get into trouble. Oftgen he would get into trouble anyway and when tis began to happen he began to hit other kids more, since he figured he was going to get into trouble anyway... All kids try the "I didn't do it" kind of lie. Some Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kids even find these kind of lies to be too difficult, they just feel too 'wrong". In the same way, ambiguity can upset these same kids. If you think about it, telling a lie can be like a crime against reality. difficult child 3 hasn't got a problem with this, difficult child 1 used to try to tell more complex lies along the lines of "The computer game was lent to me by my friend," when he had bought it with stolen money. So he had invented a lie but he hadn't thought about the entire spectrum of consequences (such as me asking his friend's mother if this was true). I do think it is theoretically possible for a Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid to tell a more complex lie. Especially a girl - Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) presents differently in girls, it can be tricky trying to pin down a diagnosis. Girls tend to be more complex in how their brains work anyway; even with her lies, I wouldn't rule out Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD). But I agree with you keeping an open mind re other diagnoses. How do you know she is lying? Those who are best at lying, never get found out. Simply being found out in a lie is an indication that the liar is less successful at it. Telling a lie is a complex thing - you not only have to make the lie beleivable at the moment, but you have to be able to sustain the lie as well as craft the lie carefully so even cross-checking won't disclose that it is a lie. That is often too complex for Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) people to do and sustain. Marg [/QUOTE]
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