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<blockquote data-quote="Ropefree" data-source="post: 217183" data-attributes="member: 6271"><p>I am not dealing with that diagnosis. However, I am leary of the idea that "he" is the one who is not doing the work.</p><p>here is what I think: #1)What works? </p><p> #2) who is doing the teaching of this?</p><p></p><p>To learn completion is the key. It also results in the grades.</p><p></p><p>When any child is "not doing the work" then what are they learning? </p><p>Because children are learning all the time. Every time a student does not do what is assigned they reinforce that.</p><p>Long assignments need to be broken down into doable parts. and those must be completed. Who is on board to 'teach' that?</p><p>I think that teachers who let any child with a specific learning issue or not fail then what is being taught? I call it 'teaching to fail'. Clearly the ODD learner needs the real time everyday support to achieve the competence and to achieve the habit of completion. If teacher is admiring the behavor that does not do that then what are they doing? Baiting them with reward? REasoning? Making them wrong? The consequence: the work is not completed/ the lesson is not learned. </p><p>By whom? Who is failing in this equation?</p><p>And then they suspend the student? Where is the referal? Where is bringing in the </p><p>procedures that do work for that child?</p><p>Suspend a child for failing to learn? What is the objective of that procedure?</p><p>I would ask what the principle is doing to bring forward the meathods that are successful? How often today in this school for that child?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ropefree, post: 217183, member: 6271"] I am not dealing with that diagnosis. However, I am leary of the idea that "he" is the one who is not doing the work. here is what I think: #1)What works? #2) who is doing the teaching of this? To learn completion is the key. It also results in the grades. When any child is "not doing the work" then what are they learning? Because children are learning all the time. Every time a student does not do what is assigned they reinforce that. Long assignments need to be broken down into doable parts. and those must be completed. Who is on board to 'teach' that? I think that teachers who let any child with a specific learning issue or not fail then what is being taught? I call it 'teaching to fail'. Clearly the ODD learner needs the real time everyday support to achieve the competence and to achieve the habit of completion. If teacher is admiring the behavor that does not do that then what are they doing? Baiting them with reward? REasoning? Making them wrong? The consequence: the work is not completed/ the lesson is not learned. By whom? Who is failing in this equation? And then they suspend the student? Where is the referal? Where is bringing in the procedures that do work for that child? Suspend a child for failing to learn? What is the objective of that procedure? I would ask what the principle is doing to bring forward the meathods that are successful? How often today in this school for that child? [/QUOTE]
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