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Eight Year old with ADHD diagnosis, possible encopresis and ODD
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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 493524" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>in my opinion don't give any medication for ADHD until he sees a neuropsychologist. I think there may be more going on than ADHD and to put him on ADHD medications without being sure (a second opinion is always a good thing) is not that great an idea. I agree with buddy that ODD is not a useful diagnosis. We KNOW our kids are defiant, but we don't know why. That's what the neuropsychologist evaluation is for. in my opinion, and I've had a lot of experience, neuropsychs are the best diagnosticians because they actually test the child in every way possible for every possible disorder and often catch things that other diagnosticians miss because they are too hasty or too fast to pull out the prescription pad. I would not trust a pediatrician, no matter how good, to diagnose a childhood disorder. They do not test; this is NOT their field of expertise. And the school can help A LOT, but I also would not trust them to do the diagnosing. It is always a wait to see a neuropsychologist. They are popular. in my opinion the wait is worth it.</p><p></p><p>Um, WHY does the school want to send social services to your home? Are they accusing you of abuse??? Do you WANT to talk to them? I'm not sure I'd go there with social services. You two have not done anything wrong.</p><p></p><p>On another subject, again in my opinion, his soiling is not defiance at all. I think there is something wrong with him that makes him not really understand how critical it is for him to use the toilet. Or maybe he has sensory issues that prevent him from understanding when he has the urge to go. A lot of k ids with childhood disorders also have bowel and toileting issues. in my opinion punishing him will not help because in my opinion again I don't believe he is being disobedient or doing it to tick you off. I think you should wait for guidance about what to do. Does he also have a problem maybe peeing at the wrong time? </p><p></p><p>I would try to get him an IEP under Other Health Impaired for now since the total reasons for his problems is not known, but the fact that he HAS issues is obvious. The school will have to test him...they always do. If they won't cooperate, call the Department of Public Education in your state and ask for the head of Special Education to find out what to do. His behavior is g oing to affect his ability to learn (again in my opinion) and he deserves a free and appropriate public education. The key is getting your school district to go along with you, and I personally wouldn't allow them to just say he is a behavior problem. I don't think it's that...why let them label him "emotionally disturbed" when you haven't found out yet if he has a neurological issue or LDs?</p><p></p><p>I hope this helped and I wish you a lot of luck. Hang in there. You WILL gain ground.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 493524, member: 1550"] in my opinion don't give any medication for ADHD until he sees a neuropsychologist. I think there may be more going on than ADHD and to put him on ADHD medications without being sure (a second opinion is always a good thing) is not that great an idea. I agree with buddy that ODD is not a useful diagnosis. We KNOW our kids are defiant, but we don't know why. That's what the neuropsychologist evaluation is for. in my opinion, and I've had a lot of experience, neuropsychs are the best diagnosticians because they actually test the child in every way possible for every possible disorder and often catch things that other diagnosticians miss because they are too hasty or too fast to pull out the prescription pad. I would not trust a pediatrician, no matter how good, to diagnose a childhood disorder. They do not test; this is NOT their field of expertise. And the school can help A LOT, but I also would not trust them to do the diagnosing. It is always a wait to see a neuropsychologist. They are popular. in my opinion the wait is worth it. Um, WHY does the school want to send social services to your home? Are they accusing you of abuse??? Do you WANT to talk to them? I'm not sure I'd go there with social services. You two have not done anything wrong. On another subject, again in my opinion, his soiling is not defiance at all. I think there is something wrong with him that makes him not really understand how critical it is for him to use the toilet. Or maybe he has sensory issues that prevent him from understanding when he has the urge to go. A lot of k ids with childhood disorders also have bowel and toileting issues. in my opinion punishing him will not help because in my opinion again I don't believe he is being disobedient or doing it to tick you off. I think you should wait for guidance about what to do. Does he also have a problem maybe peeing at the wrong time? I would try to get him an IEP under Other Health Impaired for now since the total reasons for his problems is not known, but the fact that he HAS issues is obvious. The school will have to test him...they always do. If they won't cooperate, call the Department of Public Education in your state and ask for the head of Special Education to find out what to do. His behavior is g oing to affect his ability to learn (again in my opinion) and he deserves a free and appropriate public education. The key is getting your school district to go along with you, and I personally wouldn't allow them to just say he is a behavior problem. I don't think it's that...why let them label him "emotionally disturbed" when you haven't found out yet if he has a neurological issue or LDs? I hope this helped and I wish you a lot of luck. Hang in there. You WILL gain ground. [/QUOTE]
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