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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 466383" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>This is just anecdotal, but I have been here long enough to see it often enough that it greatly concerns me. I would INSIST the doctor change him from zoloft to another antidepressant, pref NOT effexor. In males that have had parents come to this board, after a few months on zoloft they get more depressed and sometimes even violent. My son could not tell me what was wrong, but after about 3 months on zoloft he got surly, more violent and then NOTHING mattered to him - total apathy and depression far worse than ever before and then he started cutting and otherwise purposely hurting himself. At the same time, three other moms here saw the same thing with their sons on zoloft. I have yet to find a doctor who even will LISTEN to us, but we ALL found that when we got a different antidepressant on board then we saw HUGE improvement. </p><p></p><p>DO NOT STOP THE ZOLOFT SUDDENLY OR with-O STARTING ANOTHER medication AS YOU TAPER IT OFF. You do NOT need withdrawal on top of it. That is a HUGE reason why I do NTO recommend effexor. It is one of the shortest acting antidepressants of its type and if you are as little as thirty MINUTES late with the next dose you get all sorts of awful symptoms like brain shivers (feels like an electrical shock in your brain, strangest thing I have EVER felt and it was AWFUL) AND you have a nasty withdrawal syndrome that can last for over a month unless you get a substantial dose of another antidepressant on board. My son has done amazingly on luvox for six years, but it isn't right for everyone.</p><p></p><p>We saw what you are seeing when our son was on zoloft. It wasn't until after he was on another antidepressant (also SSRI type, they can be very effective) that he was able to tell us taht with the zoloft he could not feel anything at all. Nothing mattered to him except his obsessions (part of his asperger's) and even those didn't mean much. He watned to die but couldn't even work up enough feeling to try -that was terrifying to me, worse even than suicidal ideation. At least with wanting to kill yourself you want something, even if it isn't a good thing. That may nto sound rational, and of course we didn't want him to kill himself, but the idea that my very passionate son with opinions about EVERYTHING was not feeling or wanting anything was truly one of the scariest things I ever thought/felt.</p><p></p><p>NOT all males experience this on zoloft. Most don't report it if they do. Few docs have a real clue about ssri/snri antidepressant withdrawal or side effects - they hear too much from the drug co reps and too little from patients. Heck, my own doctor didn't remember I had been on effexor or had bad reactions/side effects (same that my son had, we were on it at the same time). The third time that she tried to rx it to me, after I had told her verbally and in writing about how it made me feel, was when I got a new doctor. He hates effexor because he had the same feelings and problems. If a doctor can't take the medication properly to avoid the withdrawal, even with his staff helping him take it on time, no way can a regular person.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 466383, member: 1233"] This is just anecdotal, but I have been here long enough to see it often enough that it greatly concerns me. I would INSIST the doctor change him from zoloft to another antidepressant, pref NOT effexor. In males that have had parents come to this board, after a few months on zoloft they get more depressed and sometimes even violent. My son could not tell me what was wrong, but after about 3 months on zoloft he got surly, more violent and then NOTHING mattered to him - total apathy and depression far worse than ever before and then he started cutting and otherwise purposely hurting himself. At the same time, three other moms here saw the same thing with their sons on zoloft. I have yet to find a doctor who even will LISTEN to us, but we ALL found that when we got a different antidepressant on board then we saw HUGE improvement. DO NOT STOP THE ZOLOFT SUDDENLY OR with-O STARTING ANOTHER medication AS YOU TAPER IT OFF. You do NOT need withdrawal on top of it. That is a HUGE reason why I do NTO recommend effexor. It is one of the shortest acting antidepressants of its type and if you are as little as thirty MINUTES late with the next dose you get all sorts of awful symptoms like brain shivers (feels like an electrical shock in your brain, strangest thing I have EVER felt and it was AWFUL) AND you have a nasty withdrawal syndrome that can last for over a month unless you get a substantial dose of another antidepressant on board. My son has done amazingly on luvox for six years, but it isn't right for everyone. We saw what you are seeing when our son was on zoloft. It wasn't until after he was on another antidepressant (also SSRI type, they can be very effective) that he was able to tell us taht with the zoloft he could not feel anything at all. Nothing mattered to him except his obsessions (part of his asperger's) and even those didn't mean much. He watned to die but couldn't even work up enough feeling to try -that was terrifying to me, worse even than suicidal ideation. At least with wanting to kill yourself you want something, even if it isn't a good thing. That may nto sound rational, and of course we didn't want him to kill himself, but the idea that my very passionate son with opinions about EVERYTHING was not feeling or wanting anything was truly one of the scariest things I ever thought/felt. NOT all males experience this on zoloft. Most don't report it if they do. Few docs have a real clue about ssri/snri antidepressant withdrawal or side effects - they hear too much from the drug co reps and too little from patients. Heck, my own doctor didn't remember I had been on effexor or had bad reactions/side effects (same that my son had, we were on it at the same time). The third time that she tried to rx it to me, after I had told her verbally and in writing about how it made me feel, was when I got a new doctor. He hates effexor because he had the same feelings and problems. If a doctor can't take the medication properly to avoid the withdrawal, even with his staff helping him take it on time, no way can a regular person. [/QUOTE]
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