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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 647538" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>He cannot get clean without help and support. It simply isn't going to happen for someone using opiates or meth. That is just reality. The withdrawals, esp from opiates like heroin, are so brutal that you would literally do anything, regardless of how it violates your beliefs, to make it stop. I know because a few yrs ago someone at my doctor's office claimed to have mailed my rx's to me but they never arrived and the doctor would not replace them. So I had withdrawal for a period of time until he realized that a substantial group of patients didn't get their rx's that month and were ALL in withdrawal. The person mailing them was tested and found to be using opiates, so we were all given new rx's and she was fired. It was the longest and most awful week of my life. If I had any clue who to go to in order to buy illegal drugs, I would have. But I wouldn't even know who to ask.</p><p></p><p>I do think a methadone or suboxone program might be helpful. It is a far better alternative to overdosing. I know suboxone is expensive, but methadone is dirt cheap. I take it for pain management and it works well. It is FAR cheaper than many other opiates, and is useful for getting off of heroin and other opiates because it stays in your system working for around 20 hours. That means programs can have you come in for your dose at the clinic rather than having you carry a bottle of it around with you. It can also be given in liquid form which makes it far harder to cheeks and then sell or hoard to take all at one time. Suboxone is a good medication because it can make other opiates not work for you. If you are taking suboxone, it doesn't do a lot to take other opiates because they cannot function normally in your body and make you high. Or that is the theory behind it, learned from materials from a program my exsil was in. </p><p></p><p>I do have concerns about one thing in your post. You say your son has to do a list of things like stay clean before he can live in your home. Your son is 20 years old. Moving home should NOT be a goal of his. If he needs to move back in at some point after he is clean and sober for a while, well, you can discuss that then, but moving back home would be backward progress in many ways for an adult. He needs to be encouraged to build a clean and sober life out on his own, not to become clean and sober in order to move back in with you. I mention this so that you can be clear with yourself and your son about what you want and expect for him.</p><p></p><p>As always, take what works for you and leave the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 647538, member: 1233"] He cannot get clean without help and support. It simply isn't going to happen for someone using opiates or meth. That is just reality. The withdrawals, esp from opiates like heroin, are so brutal that you would literally do anything, regardless of how it violates your beliefs, to make it stop. I know because a few yrs ago someone at my doctor's office claimed to have mailed my rx's to me but they never arrived and the doctor would not replace them. So I had withdrawal for a period of time until he realized that a substantial group of patients didn't get their rx's that month and were ALL in withdrawal. The person mailing them was tested and found to be using opiates, so we were all given new rx's and she was fired. It was the longest and most awful week of my life. If I had any clue who to go to in order to buy illegal drugs, I would have. But I wouldn't even know who to ask. I do think a methadone or suboxone program might be helpful. It is a far better alternative to overdosing. I know suboxone is expensive, but methadone is dirt cheap. I take it for pain management and it works well. It is FAR cheaper than many other opiates, and is useful for getting off of heroin and other opiates because it stays in your system working for around 20 hours. That means programs can have you come in for your dose at the clinic rather than having you carry a bottle of it around with you. It can also be given in liquid form which makes it far harder to cheeks and then sell or hoard to take all at one time. Suboxone is a good medication because it can make other opiates not work for you. If you are taking suboxone, it doesn't do a lot to take other opiates because they cannot function normally in your body and make you high. Or that is the theory behind it, learned from materials from a program my exsil was in. I do have concerns about one thing in your post. You say your son has to do a list of things like stay clean before he can live in your home. Your son is 20 years old. Moving home should NOT be a goal of his. If he needs to move back in at some point after he is clean and sober for a while, well, you can discuss that then, but moving back home would be backward progress in many ways for an adult. He needs to be encouraged to build a clean and sober life out on his own, not to become clean and sober in order to move back in with you. I mention this so that you can be clear with yourself and your son about what you want and expect for him. As always, take what works for you and leave the rest. [/QUOTE]
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