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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 443139" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Every time I try to give Casey the benefit of the doubt that maybe less than 1st degree murder happened, maybe it happened "this way" or "that way", I remember a piece of evidence that disproves that. I think that is what is meant by "the state proved it beyond a reasonable doubt", at least for me. But really, understanding the juror's instructions (to the best of my ability, at least) and understanding the definitions of felony murder and child abuse and learning that in Fl, it doesn't matter if Casey really didn't plan it out 2 mos earlier, it can still be felony murder in the first degree, put together with the evidence just sums it up for me. I could have come to a conclusion for lesser charges but the lack of any credible defense and the belief that Casey still hasn't told anyone the truth or shows any remorse, doesn't leave me even entertaining the thought or having any pity for her. (hmm...that doesn't mean I hate her, Starbie. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>DDD, I find your theories plausible but I don't think it's what Casey did because that would have been her defense if it was, in my humble opinion. I think her attnys know she's guilty, too. I don't recall hearing them actually say "Casey is innocent" one time, although maybe they did in their opening argument which I didn't see. I think they could have presented a more beleivable defense IF Casey hadn't said so much to them that it would have made it unethical for them to go so far as to present a defense that they knew was a blatant lie. (I don't know exactly where "unethical" comes into play for defense attnys and their requirements with the Bar.) That's why the theories you present might be believable and plausible, but there had to be some reason the defense attnys didn't present a more believable defense- just like when they gave her mental health evaluations (not the ones for competency but before that) and they decided it was in Casey's best interest NOT to present those or have that psychiatric testify in court. Things like that say a lot to me.</p><p></p><p>PS I do find it disturbing that the family home and the court have become tourist attractions. I can see maybe putting flowers or something in the area where Caylee died or a warrior mom of their own difficult child wanting to attend court one day, but I think it's obvious this has turned into more of a spectacle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 443139, member: 3699"] Every time I try to give Casey the benefit of the doubt that maybe less than 1st degree murder happened, maybe it happened "this way" or "that way", I remember a piece of evidence that disproves that. I think that is what is meant by "the state proved it beyond a reasonable doubt", at least for me. But really, understanding the juror's instructions (to the best of my ability, at least) and understanding the definitions of felony murder and child abuse and learning that in Fl, it doesn't matter if Casey really didn't plan it out 2 mos earlier, it can still be felony murder in the first degree, put together with the evidence just sums it up for me. I could have come to a conclusion for lesser charges but the lack of any credible defense and the belief that Casey still hasn't told anyone the truth or shows any remorse, doesn't leave me even entertaining the thought or having any pity for her. (hmm...that doesn't mean I hate her, Starbie. :) ) DDD, I find your theories plausible but I don't think it's what Casey did because that would have been her defense if it was, in my humble opinion. I think her attnys know she's guilty, too. I don't recall hearing them actually say "Casey is innocent" one time, although maybe they did in their opening argument which I didn't see. I think they could have presented a more beleivable defense IF Casey hadn't said so much to them that it would have made it unethical for them to go so far as to present a defense that they knew was a blatant lie. (I don't know exactly where "unethical" comes into play for defense attnys and their requirements with the Bar.) That's why the theories you present might be believable and plausible, but there had to be some reason the defense attnys didn't present a more believable defense- just like when they gave her mental health evaluations (not the ones for competency but before that) and they decided it was in Casey's best interest NOT to present those or have that psychiatric testify in court. Things like that say a lot to me. PS I do find it disturbing that the family home and the court have become tourist attractions. I can see maybe putting flowers or something in the area where Caylee died or a warrior mom of their own difficult child wanting to attend court one day, but I think it's obvious this has turned into more of a spectacle. [/QUOTE]
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