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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 425815" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>We were asked to leave: Church, Day care after day care, school - foster care, RTCs, Group homes - you name it? We've been excused from it EXCEPT FOR - the last psychiatrist we had. THAT man was golden. He saw Dudes 'little act" in a matter of one session, assessed it in the next one, and began therapy the very first time he saw him. If it hadn't been for our luck in getting such a wonderful therapist? Our family would be lost, and our son no doubt would be dead or in prison. The man that we were fortunate enough to see had been the psychiatrist to the prisoners within the prison here in our State. So he knew the workings of a deviant mind. IN and OUT. He had also been in practice over 30 years, but was still hip enough to be able to communicate to Dude, but not his Buddy. He never tried to be his pal or his 'bro'. He was his doctor. There were many times when we'd walk in and Dude would sit on the couch, pull the cushions over top his head, and pretend to be asleep and not listen. Those times the doctor would just talk. Other times? They'd play games, some times they would just talk. </p><p> </p><p>Interestingly enough there were days when even our doctor would say "I can't be sure he's really grasping anything but time will tell." and years later? I can tell you the things that this doctor and Dude talked about? Did sink in. He's applying them in his life, he's using the anger control techniques, he's using the logic and reasoning. He sure didn't back then, but like I tell people - these kids have conduct disorder - they aren't going to listen to anyone at the time - least of all someone in authority. It's almost like a boomerang that the smartness comes with age - so don't give up hope that therapy works. You just have to find someone you like, and your kid likes at least most of the time. He's not ever going to find anyone he likes all of the time because he doesn't even like himself all the time right now. </p><p> </p><p>And this guy you had him at wants him to ball up and be a turtle? Well I can see where I would start wtih that, and when it didn't work ask him to leave. And I would have felt absolutely just in leaving AND in asking for ALL of my payment back too. Either that or asking him if he wanted me to put the word out that he did inferior work with children and wasn't intune with the psychologial needs of his patients. And when pushed for a challenge he gave up quickly. </p><p> </p><p>It sounds as if the man has done you a favor really. He's not equipped to deal with the emotional needs of your son, he lacks the experience it will take to handle the lengthy and life-long challenge your son is presenting, and instead of being professional and admitting he's not up for the task? He's blamed it on the child. What an incompetent. In with my letter asking for my payment back? I'd probably put it in a thank you note. I hope he finds those kind that can be helped with a few sessions, a there there it will be alright and a lollipop. Sounds like he's got a few issues of his own. Also FYI - ALWAYS ask why your shrink got into being a shrink. The answers will astound you - and also can cause you to make some really sound decisions on why you do or don't go wtih someone because you are going to have a relationship with this person for a long long time and be telling them a lotof really personal details about your life. I'd want to know if they got into it because they really wanted to study the mind or because they coudln't cut it as a surgeon and figured "wTH?" I also stay away from people who reply "I wanted to make a difference" - they get burned out and have NO idea about kids like ours. NONE. That's like me saying "I wanted to have a child." - Well I never signed on for THIS rodeo,but I don't have the luxury of dropping out when it gets TOO TOUGH." and most do - drop out. The turnover rate in Residential Treatment Center (RTC)'s Counselors, Group homes, Counselors are pretty high. They have NO idea 4 years ago that THIS (our kids) are whats out there. They majority think it's just poor little Kimmy whose Mom was a drug addict, and Dad was absent and she's angry and with a little love will come around, or that little Sue had an 'abusive' father and once she gets out of that she'll need a little counseling and be okay. The majority have NO idea the absolute hell a lot of these kids have seen. Then there are kids like yours - who have disorders that are so unknown no one really knows HOW to diagnosis them let alone treat them - and what happens is what happened to you and your therapist. (guessing) </p><p> </p><p>He may even call you back and say when your son can come in and blah blah blah.....well - I would tell him to go suck a rock. I wouldn't discuss it further either. I would begin looking for a therapist that had a background, credentials, personality, and history of dealing with criminals. ---hear me out. Someone who understands criminals and the criminal mind how it works, how it operates, thinks is a little more in tune with anger, rage, upset, outbursts - and has dealt with adults on these matters. Someone who deals with the plight of the suburban housewife and a few phobias then sees a kid like ours? Is going to have to go text book and our kids aren't text book. They aren't criminals either - BUT the majority left untreated DO get into trouble with the law. So if they had a therapist that saw them younger before they got into trouble and could plant some seeds? It may be more beneficial for your kid to see someone that at least understoon their mind and how it worked or was thinking. </p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying all of these guys are brilliant or that seeing these types of doctors will prevent trouble with the law - my son went on to be a felon anyway - but it was thanks largely in part to a cop who was looking to make a name for himself and my son never should have been tried as an adult, poor decision making. I'm just saying - someone that may understand the line of thinking may have a better handle on it, and someone that understands kids is even better. </p><p> </p><p>Just my .05 worth of thought there - but don't let the terrapin man shake you - not worth it in the scheme of things. You're going to be asked to leave LOTS of places - Be glad you got asked to leave this one. I think it was devine intervention myself. </p><p> </p><p>Hugs </p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 425815, member: 4964"] We were asked to leave: Church, Day care after day care, school - foster care, RTCs, Group homes - you name it? We've been excused from it EXCEPT FOR - the last psychiatrist we had. THAT man was golden. He saw Dudes 'little act" in a matter of one session, assessed it in the next one, and began therapy the very first time he saw him. If it hadn't been for our luck in getting such a wonderful therapist? Our family would be lost, and our son no doubt would be dead or in prison. The man that we were fortunate enough to see had been the psychiatrist to the prisoners within the prison here in our State. So he knew the workings of a deviant mind. IN and OUT. He had also been in practice over 30 years, but was still hip enough to be able to communicate to Dude, but not his Buddy. He never tried to be his pal or his 'bro'. He was his doctor. There were many times when we'd walk in and Dude would sit on the couch, pull the cushions over top his head, and pretend to be asleep and not listen. Those times the doctor would just talk. Other times? They'd play games, some times they would just talk. Interestingly enough there were days when even our doctor would say "I can't be sure he's really grasping anything but time will tell." and years later? I can tell you the things that this doctor and Dude talked about? Did sink in. He's applying them in his life, he's using the anger control techniques, he's using the logic and reasoning. He sure didn't back then, but like I tell people - these kids have conduct disorder - they aren't going to listen to anyone at the time - least of all someone in authority. It's almost like a boomerang that the smartness comes with age - so don't give up hope that therapy works. You just have to find someone you like, and your kid likes at least most of the time. He's not ever going to find anyone he likes all of the time because he doesn't even like himself all the time right now. And this guy you had him at wants him to ball up and be a turtle? Well I can see where I would start wtih that, and when it didn't work ask him to leave. And I would have felt absolutely just in leaving AND in asking for ALL of my payment back too. Either that or asking him if he wanted me to put the word out that he did inferior work with children and wasn't intune with the psychologial needs of his patients. And when pushed for a challenge he gave up quickly. It sounds as if the man has done you a favor really. He's not equipped to deal with the emotional needs of your son, he lacks the experience it will take to handle the lengthy and life-long challenge your son is presenting, and instead of being professional and admitting he's not up for the task? He's blamed it on the child. What an incompetent. In with my letter asking for my payment back? I'd probably put it in a thank you note. I hope he finds those kind that can be helped with a few sessions, a there there it will be alright and a lollipop. Sounds like he's got a few issues of his own. Also FYI - ALWAYS ask why your shrink got into being a shrink. The answers will astound you - and also can cause you to make some really sound decisions on why you do or don't go wtih someone because you are going to have a relationship with this person for a long long time and be telling them a lotof really personal details about your life. I'd want to know if they got into it because they really wanted to study the mind or because they coudln't cut it as a surgeon and figured "wTH?" I also stay away from people who reply "I wanted to make a difference" - they get burned out and have NO idea about kids like ours. NONE. That's like me saying "I wanted to have a child." - Well I never signed on for THIS rodeo,but I don't have the luxury of dropping out when it gets TOO TOUGH." and most do - drop out. The turnover rate in Residential Treatment Center (RTC)'s Counselors, Group homes, Counselors are pretty high. They have NO idea 4 years ago that THIS (our kids) are whats out there. They majority think it's just poor little Kimmy whose Mom was a drug addict, and Dad was absent and she's angry and with a little love will come around, or that little Sue had an 'abusive' father and once she gets out of that she'll need a little counseling and be okay. The majority have NO idea the absolute hell a lot of these kids have seen. Then there are kids like yours - who have disorders that are so unknown no one really knows HOW to diagnosis them let alone treat them - and what happens is what happened to you and your therapist. (guessing) He may even call you back and say when your son can come in and blah blah blah.....well - I would tell him to go suck a rock. I wouldn't discuss it further either. I would begin looking for a therapist that had a background, credentials, personality, and history of dealing with criminals. ---hear me out. Someone who understands criminals and the criminal mind how it works, how it operates, thinks is a little more in tune with anger, rage, upset, outbursts - and has dealt with adults on these matters. Someone who deals with the plight of the suburban housewife and a few phobias then sees a kid like ours? Is going to have to go text book and our kids aren't text book. They aren't criminals either - BUT the majority left untreated DO get into trouble with the law. So if they had a therapist that saw them younger before they got into trouble and could plant some seeds? It may be more beneficial for your kid to see someone that at least understoon their mind and how it worked or was thinking. I'm not saying all of these guys are brilliant or that seeing these types of doctors will prevent trouble with the law - my son went on to be a felon anyway - but it was thanks largely in part to a cop who was looking to make a name for himself and my son never should have been tried as an adult, poor decision making. I'm just saying - someone that may understand the line of thinking may have a better handle on it, and someone that understands kids is even better. Just my .05 worth of thought there - but don't let the terrapin man shake you - not worth it in the scheme of things. You're going to be asked to leave LOTS of places - Be glad you got asked to leave this one. I think it was devine intervention myself. Hugs Star [/QUOTE]
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