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<blockquote data-quote="Deni D" data-source="post: 755667" data-attributes="member: 22840"><p>200 Meters, your posts are so thought provoking. Your width, depth and sense of humor amaze me.</p><p></p><p>I've often said to myself that I feel like I fell down a rabbit hole when dealing with my son's logic, in the past his dads too, when he was not taking care of himself. In my world with the two of them I always know ~ when down is up, up is down, and inside is out, it's bipolar. Not that I don't still question myself, often, but there's only so much introspection one can bring into a situation before you figure out you just can't define things in a logical manner.</p><p></p><p>And that Dormouse, I've spoken with him often. I call it "word salad", a bunch of words strung together which sound like a sentence but make no sense in context of a situation.</p><p></p><p>I don't want to provoke another "ouch" from you but about the money thing, oh boy. I've been in similar situations with my son so no judgement here, but I've finally learned it will not stop until you say no. Your son is young, much harder with someone so young in my opinion, but still. The theme of the story is "I'm in grave danger and need money to keep these horrible people at bay", "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't actually know what I'm doing or how to deal so I've gotten trapped in their snare". This theme comes in when prior themes no longer work, like the "I'm so lost and confused theme" and the "You owe me theme".</p><p></p><p>Please be prepared for some version of this to crop up in the future. The bottom line with someone who wants to continue to do as they please and have us continue to be responsible for their every wrong move is they will become more and more creative to make that happen. I had gotten to the point of experiencing my son doing the absolute equivalent of shooting himself in the foot, seemingly on purpose, considering all of the warnings from me, and then turning to me and saying something to the effect of "okay now what are you going to do?" from a situation when he didn't get what he wanted, as if my inability to stop him was my responsibility and not his.</p><p></p><p>Your youngest is a real challenge, huge understatement, but from your posts if anyone has the right disposition to evolve and see this situation through it's you. I've been way too emotionally invested, or rather not grounded, I think you are grounded no matter what comes your way. </p><p></p><p>Wishing you the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deni D, post: 755667, member: 22840"] 200 Meters, your posts are so thought provoking. Your width, depth and sense of humor amaze me. I've often said to myself that I feel like I fell down a rabbit hole when dealing with my son's logic, in the past his dads too, when he was not taking care of himself. In my world with the two of them I always know ~ when down is up, up is down, and inside is out, it's bipolar. Not that I don't still question myself, often, but there's only so much introspection one can bring into a situation before you figure out you just can't define things in a logical manner. And that Dormouse, I've spoken with him often. I call it "word salad", a bunch of words strung together which sound like a sentence but make no sense in context of a situation. I don't want to provoke another "ouch" from you but about the money thing, oh boy. I've been in similar situations with my son so no judgement here, but I've finally learned it will not stop until you say no. Your son is young, much harder with someone so young in my opinion, but still. The theme of the story is "I'm in grave danger and need money to keep these horrible people at bay", "I'm just a babe in the woods who doesn't actually know what I'm doing or how to deal so I've gotten trapped in their snare". This theme comes in when prior themes no longer work, like the "I'm so lost and confused theme" and the "You owe me theme". Please be prepared for some version of this to crop up in the future. The bottom line with someone who wants to continue to do as they please and have us continue to be responsible for their every wrong move is they will become more and more creative to make that happen. I had gotten to the point of experiencing my son doing the absolute equivalent of shooting himself in the foot, seemingly on purpose, considering all of the warnings from me, and then turning to me and saying something to the effect of "okay now what are you going to do?" from a situation when he didn't get what he wanted, as if my inability to stop him was my responsibility and not his. Your youngest is a real challenge, huge understatement, but from your posts if anyone has the right disposition to evolve and see this situation through it's you. I've been way too emotionally invested, or rather not grounded, I think you are grounded no matter what comes your way. Wishing you the best. [/QUOTE]
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