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Hey, Cedar, or anyone interested in FOO (Family of Origin) issues. Cedar, WHY NOW???
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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 659237" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>If I never got up from bed, I would want to get up. And I would. So there.</p><p></p><p>So, the bed is neither here nor there. It could be a sofa. It could be a bar stool. For that matter I could have run away to some unknown place and be doing some undetermined thing.</p><p></p><p>What seems to be so, is that waves of sadness and defeat keep washing over me. And I get afraid. Because I fear they will stay forever and I interpret, that is the important distinction, I react to them as if they will be forever when, in fact the next moment:</p><p></p><p>I get frantic because I try and try to figure out what I know or what I see right before I get so afraid.</p><p></p><p>So, afraid that I say I will give up. I will give up everything. Pay the ultimate and highest price if the hostage is freed.</p><p></p><p>Because I am believing as I type this that going to bed I am paying a ransom. It is the price to be paid at that moment that someone dear to me be saved.</p><p></p><p>I wonder if it is something about my father...some ugly secret of abuse. I wonder if I cannot permit myself to live...able and complete...when my sister is so damaged and flawed.</p><p></p><p>And I fear it is my son.</p><p></p><p>That as long as my son is floundering and vulnerable...and worst of all...that he feels I have rejected him...or I feel guilty that I have done so...and...</p><p></p><p>This is it. Again. I fear that by setting that limit with my son, telling him if he continues to disrespect me, I would think about putting a block on the phone.</p><p></p><p>M thinks I spoke too harshly, that when I am angry I speak in a voice that is not mine.</p><p></p><p>But I think this is my voice, it is just very seldom used because I fear it.</p><p></p><p>I have written before that when I was about 26 I decided to no longer see my father. By that time he was a real drunk and I could not back away from the idea that I was degraded by him.</p><p></p><p>There were all sorts of boundary issues, some quite disturbing. When I would go to see him we would go to a bar together and drink until we were in a stupor.</p><p>When I was that drunk I would spend the night.</p><p></p><p>I think I began to recognize at that time that I was in danger. I will not spell it out.</p><p></p><p>So, I stopped it. And I have posted before that when I chose to no longer see my father, he had nothing in his heart for me but hatred, and denounced me to my brother and I guess everybody else, as guilty of sexual proclivities that he invented.</p><p></p><p>And then, the next thing I knew of him was that my mother (I had been estranged from her for 11 years or so) sent a letter telling me that my father had died maybe 4 years before.)</p><p></p><p>And this was the first time of devastation. But this time I only went to be for maybe 6 months and had to get up to go to work.</p><p></p><p>So, I think I fear that having set a limit with my son, means I may never speak with or see him again. And worse still, that when I set a limit it is almost killing in its' power. And I do not want to hurt my son by making a limit. And I did. And it's too late to protect him. Or maybe I fear that my son is punishing me and that he will decide like I did with my father, that he does not want to see me or talk to me.</p><p></p><p>And it will be forever. And that I could not bear. And I think I go to bed, because I could not bear to never ever see my son again.</p><p></p><p>There have been so many terrible, terrible losses and assaults in my life. And I do not know how I survived intact, or at least alive.</p><p></p><p>But then, when I fear I may not ever see my son, I remember that I should be dead. And I think I kill myself off again. Because that is only way that I feel that he can be okay.</p><p></p><p>SWOT pointed out that I seem to not feel as if I can be okay and thrive without taking care of others. And there is truth to this. I keep going back for survivors. Kind of like Frida Dickers Kramer, the artist in Nazi Germany I wrote about.</p><p></p><p>Until this last time, when I went back, I died, too.</p><p></p><p>So I cannot figure out what to do. M is here. With me. And he I think will stay with me and help me survive. Whether it is in bed or somewhere far away. And for that I am grateful.</p><p></p><p>So, that is what it is. By going to bed, again and again, I am paying a ransom so that others live. And I think once that person was my sister. And now it is my son. Or maybe the both of them.</p><p></p><p>But then, maybe, I am trying to save myself. Maybe it is me.</p><p></p><p>Thank you Cedar and SWOT.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 659237, member: 18958"] If I never got up from bed, I would want to get up. And I would. So there. So, the bed is neither here nor there. It could be a sofa. It could be a bar stool. For that matter I could have run away to some unknown place and be doing some undetermined thing. What seems to be so, is that waves of sadness and defeat keep washing over me. And I get afraid. Because I fear they will stay forever and I interpret, that is the important distinction, I react to them as if they will be forever when, in fact the next moment: I get frantic because I try and try to figure out what I know or what I see right before I get so afraid. So, afraid that I say I will give up. I will give up everything. Pay the ultimate and highest price if the hostage is freed. Because I am believing as I type this that going to bed I am paying a ransom. It is the price to be paid at that moment that someone dear to me be saved. I wonder if it is something about my father...some ugly secret of abuse. I wonder if I cannot permit myself to live...able and complete...when my sister is so damaged and flawed. And I fear it is my son. That as long as my son is floundering and vulnerable...and worst of all...that he feels I have rejected him...or I feel guilty that I have done so...and... This is it. Again. I fear that by setting that limit with my son, telling him if he continues to disrespect me, I would think about putting a block on the phone. M thinks I spoke too harshly, that when I am angry I speak in a voice that is not mine. But I think this is my voice, it is just very seldom used because I fear it. I have written before that when I was about 26 I decided to no longer see my father. By that time he was a real drunk and I could not back away from the idea that I was degraded by him. There were all sorts of boundary issues, some quite disturbing. When I would go to see him we would go to a bar together and drink until we were in a stupor. When I was that drunk I would spend the night. I think I began to recognize at that time that I was in danger. I will not spell it out. So, I stopped it. And I have posted before that when I chose to no longer see my father, he had nothing in his heart for me but hatred, and denounced me to my brother and I guess everybody else, as guilty of sexual proclivities that he invented. And then, the next thing I knew of him was that my mother (I had been estranged from her for 11 years or so) sent a letter telling me that my father had died maybe 4 years before.) And this was the first time of devastation. But this time I only went to be for maybe 6 months and had to get up to go to work. So, I think I fear that having set a limit with my son, means I may never speak with or see him again. And worse still, that when I set a limit it is almost killing in its' power. And I do not want to hurt my son by making a limit. And I did. And it's too late to protect him. Or maybe I fear that my son is punishing me and that he will decide like I did with my father, that he does not want to see me or talk to me. And it will be forever. And that I could not bear. And I think I go to bed, because I could not bear to never ever see my son again. There have been so many terrible, terrible losses and assaults in my life. And I do not know how I survived intact, or at least alive. But then, when I fear I may not ever see my son, I remember that I should be dead. And I think I kill myself off again. Because that is only way that I feel that he can be okay. SWOT pointed out that I seem to not feel as if I can be okay and thrive without taking care of others. And there is truth to this. I keep going back for survivors. Kind of like Frida Dickers Kramer, the artist in Nazi Germany I wrote about. Until this last time, when I went back, I died, too. So I cannot figure out what to do. M is here. With me. And he I think will stay with me and help me survive. Whether it is in bed or somewhere far away. And for that I am grateful. So, that is what it is. By going to bed, again and again, I am paying a ransom so that others live. And I think once that person was my sister. And now it is my son. Or maybe the both of them. But then, maybe, I am trying to save myself. Maybe it is me. Thank you Cedar and SWOT. [/QUOTE]
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