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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 675032" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>I'm not trying to flog a dead horse here... but I would really have appreciated it 10 years ago if somebody could have told me this stuff.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>If that's the case, then half of my relatives should be or should have been ODD. But ODD is actually quite rare in my family tree, although ADHD is rampant (something like 80% of my generation and younger with <em>formal</em> diagnosis of ADHD).</p><p>There are all sorts of "facts" out there. Many are contradictory. But some that I found when I was up to my eyeballs in research include...</p><p>- many kids with auditory processing disorders end up with an ADHD diagnosis instead. They can't "focus"... oh? really? maybe they can't pick up what the verbal instructions are in a noisy classroom (ALL classrooms are noisy, some are just worse).</p><p>- many kids who are high functioning but on the autism spectrum end up with an ADHD diagnosis because they can't sit still, are always fidgeting. </p><p>- mental health issues can end up being labeled ADHD, as can sensory processing disorders (over or under sensitive to stimuli)</p><p>I can't find the post I made a few years back, right now. With actual stats.</p><p>Just my opinion, but the fact that so many ADHD kids "end up with ODD" tells me that it's more likely that lots of ADHD kids have the wrong diagnosis... and that goes double for girls.</p><p>Ignore the statistics. They can be manipulated in dozens of ways. And... the stats mostly apply to boys, not girls. The real numbers for girls get buried by the higher count of boys. Unless you have all the details of the study... it's just media hype.</p><p>About the "autism has been ruled out" statement. Just for the record. We spent 18 years trying to get help for my challenging child. An alphabet soup of diagnoses. Most of which were either outright wrong, or wrong in degree (anxiety was a secondary issue, caused by other issues, not a primary issue). When we got to adulthood and got some REALLY good doctors? He has Asperger's, plus a mental health condition. Absolutely everybody else ruled out Asperger's and everything else on the autism spectrum. But... he DOES have it. We knew by age 14 - and changed our approach, and that made more difference at home than anything else... but we couldn't get school to buy in.</p><p>Please leave all prior rule-outs OFF the table this time around. Start from scratch. And do not let the pediatrician do the diagnosing. You need someone who specializes in intensive evaluations - whether it's one person or a team.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 675032, member: 11791"] I'm not trying to flog a dead horse here... but I would really have appreciated it 10 years ago if somebody could have told me this stuff. If that's the case, then half of my relatives should be or should have been ODD. But ODD is actually quite rare in my family tree, although ADHD is rampant (something like 80% of my generation and younger with [I]formal[/I] diagnosis of ADHD). There are all sorts of "facts" out there. Many are contradictory. But some that I found when I was up to my eyeballs in research include... - many kids with auditory processing disorders end up with an ADHD diagnosis instead. They can't "focus"... oh? really? maybe they can't pick up what the verbal instructions are in a noisy classroom (ALL classrooms are noisy, some are just worse). - many kids who are high functioning but on the autism spectrum end up with an ADHD diagnosis because they can't sit still, are always fidgeting. - mental health issues can end up being labeled ADHD, as can sensory processing disorders (over or under sensitive to stimuli) I can't find the post I made a few years back, right now. With actual stats. Just my opinion, but the fact that so many ADHD kids "end up with ODD" tells me that it's more likely that lots of ADHD kids have the wrong diagnosis... and that goes double for girls. Ignore the statistics. They can be manipulated in dozens of ways. And... the stats mostly apply to boys, not girls. The real numbers for girls get buried by the higher count of boys. Unless you have all the details of the study... it's just media hype. About the "autism has been ruled out" statement. Just for the record. We spent 18 years trying to get help for my challenging child. An alphabet soup of diagnoses. Most of which were either outright wrong, or wrong in degree (anxiety was a secondary issue, caused by other issues, not a primary issue). When we got to adulthood and got some REALLY good doctors? He has Asperger's, plus a mental health condition. Absolutely everybody else ruled out Asperger's and everything else on the autism spectrum. But... he DOES have it. We knew by age 14 - and changed our approach, and that made more difference at home than anything else... but we couldn't get school to buy in. Please leave all prior rule-outs OFF the table this time around. Start from scratch. And do not let the pediatrician do the diagnosing. You need someone who specializes in intensive evaluations - whether it's one person or a team. [/QUOTE]
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