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Copa you are so right and your advice over the years has been spot on!  at my lowest point I could no longer go on and sought out therapy and help for me to finally let go. I had to learn to love myself enough to let him go. When I finally did significant changes started to happen and there was a major shift in my relationship with my son. Although not perfect it is better than it has been in years. He is taking responsibility for his life and slowly getting back on track.  one step at a time, but while I am always here I Am so in the background. Copa I can’t tell you how much your advice has helped me! I am eternally grateful to you and the others on this forum who have walked through hell but kept on walking. Together we can all get to the other side!