Mickey2255
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<span style='font-family: Arial'>Well I have to vent to someone who understands...so you all are it.
For a brief re-cap, my 9 year old ADHD-ODD son has been suspended for 12 days since the beginning of calendar year 2007. Two days for aggression with a student and two 5-day suspensions for aggression with teachers (there's a lot of background to these but I won't bore you). We asked for his IEP to be changed to OHI since it had been just for speech/language even though they have known since kindergarten that he was ADHD. I've been studying like a madwoman to figure out all these laws and rules and went in there pretty prepared. They were prepared
too - but only to say NO.
Our first battle came when they argued that they cannot add ODD to the IEP. They say it's a medical diagnosis that would indicate my son is Socially Impaired. HUH???? They also said they are a school and can't treat a medical diagnosis. HUH????? We ended up pending that one just to move on. I knew we weren't going to finish anyway and I sure as heck didn't plan on signing anything yesterday!
We did pretty good on the accommodations for the ADHD and of course the S/L stuff was nothing new though I did ask for them to specify how many contacts would be in the classroom and how many would be with the S/L therapist in small groups. I actually adore his S/L guy - semi-retired but knows how to have "fun" with learning.
So then we got down to where they wanted to mark the little box that said he is subject to the school's code of conduct and we came to a grinding halt. I don't have a problem with him being subject to the school's code of conduct per se, but they have specific disciplines attached to them that I don't agree with at all - like those stupid 5 day suspensions. Basically they told me I was going to have to file a manifestation determination after every single infraction to see if what happened was related to his disability. I told them that we already knew
that as an ADHD/ODD student that 99% of what he would do would be
determined to be related!! Why waste time on the back end when we can fix this on the front end? I also pointed out that our federal government does not have "one size fits all" penalties for breaking laws. They actually look at the situation before determining the penalty/jail time!
End result was that nobody in the room was an "administrator" even though the principal had been on the "invitation list" to the IEP and I had expected her to be there. She wasn't there on purpose I'm quite sure. I saw both her and the assistant principal before the meeting and they walked past several times. So nobody in the room could make an "exception" or address the discipline issue even though I had made it quite clear prior to the meeting that this was a priority for me. They also did not address the fact that they owe my son 2 days of school since they exceeded the 10 cummulative days. (If someone is listed as "invited" in the Notice of Meeting to attend the IEP, don't they have to notify me if they are NOT going to be there just the same as they do if they add someone to the attendance list?)
We are supposed to reconvene next week which isn't going to be easy with my work schedule but I guess I'll find a way. If anyone has any advice or suggestions for "next steps" I'm very open to listening! By nature I'm not very confrontational so the only way I can do this is being super prepared with facts and research to support my position! Otherwise I'd talk in circles and probably just give in.
I'm also getting ready to fill our a "parent record of proposals" to bring to the next meeting and a "parent attachment" depending on the outcome. I basically had three pages of stuff for the meeting and had written a 6 page history of difficult child. I think both should be included as attachments!
Thanks for reading! And suggestions are very welcome!
Michelle</span>
For a brief re-cap, my 9 year old ADHD-ODD son has been suspended for 12 days since the beginning of calendar year 2007. Two days for aggression with a student and two 5-day suspensions for aggression with teachers (there's a lot of background to these but I won't bore you). We asked for his IEP to be changed to OHI since it had been just for speech/language even though they have known since kindergarten that he was ADHD. I've been studying like a madwoman to figure out all these laws and rules and went in there pretty prepared. They were prepared
too - but only to say NO.
Our first battle came when they argued that they cannot add ODD to the IEP. They say it's a medical diagnosis that would indicate my son is Socially Impaired. HUH???? They also said they are a school and can't treat a medical diagnosis. HUH????? We ended up pending that one just to move on. I knew we weren't going to finish anyway and I sure as heck didn't plan on signing anything yesterday!
We did pretty good on the accommodations for the ADHD and of course the S/L stuff was nothing new though I did ask for them to specify how many contacts would be in the classroom and how many would be with the S/L therapist in small groups. I actually adore his S/L guy - semi-retired but knows how to have "fun" with learning.
So then we got down to where they wanted to mark the little box that said he is subject to the school's code of conduct and we came to a grinding halt. I don't have a problem with him being subject to the school's code of conduct per se, but they have specific disciplines attached to them that I don't agree with at all - like those stupid 5 day suspensions. Basically they told me I was going to have to file a manifestation determination after every single infraction to see if what happened was related to his disability. I told them that we already knew
that as an ADHD/ODD student that 99% of what he would do would be
determined to be related!! Why waste time on the back end when we can fix this on the front end? I also pointed out that our federal government does not have "one size fits all" penalties for breaking laws. They actually look at the situation before determining the penalty/jail time!
End result was that nobody in the room was an "administrator" even though the principal had been on the "invitation list" to the IEP and I had expected her to be there. She wasn't there on purpose I'm quite sure. I saw both her and the assistant principal before the meeting and they walked past several times. So nobody in the room could make an "exception" or address the discipline issue even though I had made it quite clear prior to the meeting that this was a priority for me. They also did not address the fact that they owe my son 2 days of school since they exceeded the 10 cummulative days. (If someone is listed as "invited" in the Notice of Meeting to attend the IEP, don't they have to notify me if they are NOT going to be there just the same as they do if they add someone to the attendance list?)
We are supposed to reconvene next week which isn't going to be easy with my work schedule but I guess I'll find a way. If anyone has any advice or suggestions for "next steps" I'm very open to listening! By nature I'm not very confrontational so the only way I can do this is being super prepared with facts and research to support my position! Otherwise I'd talk in circles and probably just give in.
I'm also getting ready to fill our a "parent record of proposals" to bring to the next meeting and a "parent attachment" depending on the outcome. I basically had three pages of stuff for the meeting and had written a 6 page history of difficult child. I think both should be included as attachments!
Thanks for reading! And suggestions are very welcome!
Michelle</span>