I didn't think it was a "normal" situation. You are right. She is going to do what she is going to do, and it will continue to cause you pain. It isn't like you could just magically fix her, but deciding not to. You recognize the simple fact that it is beyond your control. You have tried very hard, for a very long time, and you know your daughter. I didn't mean to imply that you didn't care about her well being. Sorry if that is the impression you got. I meant it in regards to the particular behavior you started this thread about. You have taken her abuse, and tried EVERYTHING you can think of to help her, and it doesn't work. Like I said, pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional. You can't help but feel hurt by the things that she does and says, but what is under your control is how you deal with it. You choose the perfectly reasonable, logical step. She has proven that she is going to keep hurting you, regardless of what you say and do, so the only rational step is to pack it away, and try to live your life as well as you possibly can.