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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 442344" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>WOW. You are dealing iwth a LOT. I would be upset at the rapid addition of so many medications too. Did you know that Daytrana (or any stimulant) can make anxiety MUCH worse? has he tried any other stims? Some may be easier than others for him. Also stims are hard on the heart, so that is a concern.</p><p></p><p>I would NOT watn a male child on zoloft. NOT because any gender bias, but because what I have seen. My difficult child was on zoloft for about 9 mos. At first it was good and then it made him more and mroe aggressive and made his depression much worse. At the same time some of the moms who were around them were also seeing that their sons (and one of their husband's) were great on zoloft for 3-4 mos and then became very aggressive and more depressed. There were enough of them that it seemed to be a link. Esp as we got our guys onto other medications and the aggression lessened and the depression got a lot better. I also would NEVER put anyone on effexor. IT has a very very short halflife, meaning it leaves the body very fast. But it causes withdrawal symptoms that are HORRIBLE. I took it and got them if I was thirty minutes late with my dose. Even when I wasn't late it created intense social anxiety, headaches, a weird brain shiver like the feeling that you licked a battery but the feeling is in yoru head, and if I turned my head quickly my brain seemed Occupational Therapist (OT) keep moving whne my head stopped. I cannot describe the feelings any better, but those were the bad symptoms when I took it - besides upset stomach, etc... It had the worst withdrawal I had ever had. Six weeks of h*ll. I wanted to die. Far mroe than at any time before.</p><p></p><p>There ARE medications that are very helpful with eating disorders. One member here had a daughter with a food phobia that was severe. Zyprexa, an atypical antipsychotic, was teh medication that broke its' grip on her. My exsil has a couple of eating disorders and this medication is the one her docs have said have the best record for helping them. It is great with anxiety and likely would be FAR more helpful than the zoloft.</p><p></p><p>Given bipolar disorder int he family, I would NOT want him on antidepressants. Get a copy of The Bipolar Child and read the section on medications. medications like zoloft can actually send people into a type of bipolar disorder that is recognized in the DSM, even if docs don't want to admit it. Docs like to not admit lots of things, in my opinion. Esp that medications like zoloft have withdrawal. I have seen a lot of research that says it happens, but every doctor of mine and my kids except one psychiatrist I saw have all denied that it can happen. They each claim to have never heard of a patient who complained of withdrawal problems. Even after I left several messages about it one doctor said that no patient, including me, had ever reported withdrawal from ssri's to her. Give ssri withdrawal and/or zoloft withdrawal a google search - there is a LOT of evidence about it.</p><p></p><p>I hope that you can make this place understand that they need to back off on the ODD and get with the anxiety treatment. Otherwise i am not sure it would be helpful. on the other hand, maybe treating the ODD would help in the long run. They should at least discuss their reasons and methods with you.</p><p></p><p>make sure a psychiatrist is in charge of the medications and that they get YOUR approval before any changes. That is a lot of medications to add in just 4 days. Also with bipolar in the family tree you may want to consider following the medication protocol in teh Bipolar Child book - it can help figure out if what you are seeing is emerging bipolar or not. Once ruled out you can try other thigns, but many medications can cause huge problems on someone with bipolar. SSRI medications like zoloft can start mood cycling that can take months after the medication is stopped to stabilize. Don't let the docs tell you that ssri's are recommended for bipolar. They are, but only by the drug co's. The approved protocol calls for mood stabilizers and atypical antipsychotics like zyprexa to be given until moods are stable, then small amts of medications like stims can be added if symptoms still exist. It is in teh book I suggested.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 442344, member: 1233"] WOW. You are dealing iwth a LOT. I would be upset at the rapid addition of so many medications too. Did you know that Daytrana (or any stimulant) can make anxiety MUCH worse? has he tried any other stims? Some may be easier than others for him. Also stims are hard on the heart, so that is a concern. I would NOT watn a male child on zoloft. NOT because any gender bias, but because what I have seen. My difficult child was on zoloft for about 9 mos. At first it was good and then it made him more and mroe aggressive and made his depression much worse. At the same time some of the moms who were around them were also seeing that their sons (and one of their husband's) were great on zoloft for 3-4 mos and then became very aggressive and more depressed. There were enough of them that it seemed to be a link. Esp as we got our guys onto other medications and the aggression lessened and the depression got a lot better. I also would NEVER put anyone on effexor. IT has a very very short halflife, meaning it leaves the body very fast. But it causes withdrawal symptoms that are HORRIBLE. I took it and got them if I was thirty minutes late with my dose. Even when I wasn't late it created intense social anxiety, headaches, a weird brain shiver like the feeling that you licked a battery but the feeling is in yoru head, and if I turned my head quickly my brain seemed Occupational Therapist (OT) keep moving whne my head stopped. I cannot describe the feelings any better, but those were the bad symptoms when I took it - besides upset stomach, etc... It had the worst withdrawal I had ever had. Six weeks of h*ll. I wanted to die. Far mroe than at any time before. There ARE medications that are very helpful with eating disorders. One member here had a daughter with a food phobia that was severe. Zyprexa, an atypical antipsychotic, was teh medication that broke its' grip on her. My exsil has a couple of eating disorders and this medication is the one her docs have said have the best record for helping them. It is great with anxiety and likely would be FAR more helpful than the zoloft. Given bipolar disorder int he family, I would NOT want him on antidepressants. Get a copy of The Bipolar Child and read the section on medications. medications like zoloft can actually send people into a type of bipolar disorder that is recognized in the DSM, even if docs don't want to admit it. Docs like to not admit lots of things, in my opinion. Esp that medications like zoloft have withdrawal. I have seen a lot of research that says it happens, but every doctor of mine and my kids except one psychiatrist I saw have all denied that it can happen. They each claim to have never heard of a patient who complained of withdrawal problems. Even after I left several messages about it one doctor said that no patient, including me, had ever reported withdrawal from ssri's to her. Give ssri withdrawal and/or zoloft withdrawal a google search - there is a LOT of evidence about it. I hope that you can make this place understand that they need to back off on the ODD and get with the anxiety treatment. Otherwise i am not sure it would be helpful. on the other hand, maybe treating the ODD would help in the long run. They should at least discuss their reasons and methods with you. make sure a psychiatrist is in charge of the medications and that they get YOUR approval before any changes. That is a lot of medications to add in just 4 days. Also with bipolar in the family tree you may want to consider following the medication protocol in teh Bipolar Child book - it can help figure out if what you are seeing is emerging bipolar or not. Once ruled out you can try other thigns, but many medications can cause huge problems on someone with bipolar. SSRI medications like zoloft can start mood cycling that can take months after the medication is stopped to stabilize. Don't let the docs tell you that ssri's are recommended for bipolar. They are, but only by the drug co's. The approved protocol calls for mood stabilizers and atypical antipsychotics like zyprexa to be given until moods are stable, then small amts of medications like stims can be added if symptoms still exist. It is in teh book I suggested. [/QUOTE]
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