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Methamphetamine/Fentanyl Induced Psychosis, or Schizophrenia?
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<blockquote data-quote="Deni D" data-source="post: 765403" data-attributes="member: 22840"><p>SageAngel ~ I'm amazed at all you have been able to do to get control of her situation to this point. </p><p></p><p>I have done what you call a medication wash with my son many years ago but the circumstances are so different for him there would be no comparison to your nieces situation. </p><p></p><p>I don't know of any research on what the path would be going forward for someone with long term drug use, and a mental health disorder, assuming the disorder was created by the drug use. The lack of insight after all she has been through and all of the treatment she's been given the last few months kind of points to her not being ready for any big changes.</p><p></p><p>Is she actually somewhat stable at this point? I mean at least able to handle selfcare and participate during the therapies she's been given so far, willingly. </p><p></p><p>Just my opinion but I don't think a baseline could be determined yet considering she has 15 years of drug abuse and relapsed within a 5 month period of forced sobriety. Most of the time people with a diagnosis schizophrenic, or schizoaffective bipolar do not have to be institutionalized for the rest of their lives, so don't worry about that just yet. They do need a good support system to help them when things go sideways. If they accept a support system they can lead relatively good lives. </p><p></p><p>I know it must be heart breaking with her being in a place she doesn't want to be in and doesn't think she should be in but I think I would take it slow and wait for the Residential Treatment Center (RTC). Maybe a tweak to her current medications might be the only thing to consider right now. Also I wouldn't worry too much about her being in the wrong place, like if she were taken off of her medications her brain would clear and she would see the light. Considering how you described her condition when you got her help, as long as she's not being mistreated, I feel whether she likes it or not she's got a road to recovery to walk, for a while. </p><p></p><p>Sorry I didn't answer your question. And take my opinions with a gran of salt. My experience has only been with up to 10 day admissions for my son, with many relapses along the way. He does have a diagnosis of Bipolar with schizoaffective tendencies. His diagnosis did not come after drug abuse, but instead before it when he was a child, officially Mood Disorder not otherwise specified prior to adulthood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deni D, post: 765403, member: 22840"] SageAngel ~ I'm amazed at all you have been able to do to get control of her situation to this point. I have done what you call a medication wash with my son many years ago but the circumstances are so different for him there would be no comparison to your nieces situation. I don't know of any research on what the path would be going forward for someone with long term drug use, and a mental health disorder, assuming the disorder was created by the drug use. The lack of insight after all she has been through and all of the treatment she's been given the last few months kind of points to her not being ready for any big changes. Is she actually somewhat stable at this point? I mean at least able to handle selfcare and participate during the therapies she's been given so far, willingly. Just my opinion but I don't think a baseline could be determined yet considering she has 15 years of drug abuse and relapsed within a 5 month period of forced sobriety. Most of the time people with a diagnosis schizophrenic, or schizoaffective bipolar do not have to be institutionalized for the rest of their lives, so don't worry about that just yet. They do need a good support system to help them when things go sideways. If they accept a support system they can lead relatively good lives. I know it must be heart breaking with her being in a place she doesn't want to be in and doesn't think she should be in but I think I would take it slow and wait for the Residential Treatment Center (RTC). Maybe a tweak to her current medications might be the only thing to consider right now. Also I wouldn't worry too much about her being in the wrong place, like if she were taken off of her medications her brain would clear and she would see the light. Considering how you described her condition when you got her help, as long as she's not being mistreated, I feel whether she likes it or not she's got a road to recovery to walk, for a while. Sorry I didn't answer your question. And take my opinions with a gran of salt. My experience has only been with up to 10 day admissions for my son, with many relapses along the way. He does have a diagnosis of Bipolar with schizoaffective tendencies. His diagnosis did not come after drug abuse, but instead before it when he was a child, officially Mood Disorder not otherwise specified prior to adulthood. [/QUOTE]
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