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<blockquote data-quote="SageAngel" data-source="post: 765411" data-attributes="member: 33368"><p>What you are going through sounds very frightening. I wonder if the jail will let you know when her release date is? That kind of information is hard to come by, because she is an adult. I found that establishing good rapport with every facility involved in my nieces care before I became her conservator, I was able to determine her release dates. On the last 6 releases from jail, she was sent to the crisei stabilzation unit. The first five times, I had no idea what that even was. But, after I found out, my sister ( her mother) camped out in the parking lot all day. I live 500 miles away. She watched the ambulance pull up with her daughter in a straight jacket, tied to a wheelchair. She waited for 7 hours. She felt so discouraged and she needed to use the restroom, and decided to give up. I texted her one simple word." Wait. " Within moments the social worker whom she had given the paperwork to came out to her car and let her know that he went in while the psychiatrist evaluted her, and made him read the evidence we had prepared. They sent her to an acute care facility. We still think of this social worker as our angel. </p><p>You did not mention if your daughter abuses substances. This could have a lot to do with her violent behavior. A typical schizophrenic is not violent. But a person can be known as schizoaffective- they are similar- but a schizoaffective person tends to be abusive and violent as they are wapped up in and controlled by their delusions. My niece threatend to kill my sister and her siblings. She stabbed her older sister. I would not have believed any of this except that my sister had video cameras installed focused on the window that my niece used to go in and out of her bedroom which was in the garage. While her family was trying to hold her at bay she kept attacking them. When police arrived they had to wrangle her to the ground as she swung, and kicked and bit them. She also attacked the paramedics. She was charged with battery and violating a restraining order. I know it is just a piece of paper, but perhaps you can file a restraining order against her. It sounds to me like she will violate it, and then she will be taken back to jail. I know that doesnt help her, but at least you will be safe. My niece takes a monthly injection antipsychotic medication. She was given a hearing, and forced to take the injection against her will, but I believe that law only exists in California. I know of another woman with an adidcted daughter, whom burned down the shed in their backyard that they were allowing her to live in. When she was once again taken to jail, they moved, and changed their phone numbers and got different jobs so that their daughter would not be able to find them ever again. It sounds so extreme, doesnt it? But your safety is your number one concern. I dont know your situation however. When my niece was here for a week after I picked her up, I slept with one eye open, if and when I could actually sleep. I was also afraid she would jump out of my car while it was moving, as she has done that before as the need for drugs overcame her common sense. It was gut wrenching and heartbreaking to drive around looking for her just to bring her food, or coffee or clean underwear. She relocated to another city near the jail, so as soon as she got out she could get her fix. We found this out by asking the local homeless crowd if anyone had seen her. We found her very near the area that her "informant" said she was last seen. She was almost unreconizable, and deep in one of her delusions, one of which was an officer in the army, as she spoke to her soldiers, giving orders and waving her arms. My sister was afraid to approach her, so I was left to approach alone. When I called her name she swung around and looked me straight in the eyes. Her demeanor changed and suddenly she was the sweet innocent little girl, and I could see it in her eyes that she was pleading for help, although she did not speak those words. I took her in my car and got her some food, as she had been eating from a garbage dumpster. She would not go with me that day, but when I left her she crumpled into a fetal position and wept. It broke my heart. That is what made me even more detemined to get her the help she so desperately deserved. She got arrested again about a month later. Do you have any kind of conservatorship or guardianship laws in your state? I would check into that, because even though that is also just a piece of paper it is a court order, and she will be required to comply, or face incareration. One really has to go all the extra miles and plead and beg for help. I felt bad conserving her, and she still has no idea how any of this happened. One day she was smoking fentanyl on the street , and the next day she was incarcerated, and then placed in an acute care facility. it was a lot of work for me as well. Hours of phone calls every day. but now she is safe and stable, and my sister can sleep at night for the first tme in 15 years. Other than that night about 10 days ago when she overdosed on fentanyl she stayed clean for 6 months. I talk to her every single day by telephone, and I actually look forward to her calls. She realizes that now she has a lifeline. She is begining to open up and trust again, as she tells me about her day, her group therapy, her rommate that snores like a freight train, and I will do and say anything to hear her laugh ter again, and begin to have hope in her future. Recovery is possible, all it takes is one little spark, one day at a time. She is worth it. Your daughter is worth it. Never give up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SageAngel, post: 765411, member: 33368"] What you are going through sounds very frightening. I wonder if the jail will let you know when her release date is? That kind of information is hard to come by, because she is an adult. I found that establishing good rapport with every facility involved in my nieces care before I became her conservator, I was able to determine her release dates. On the last 6 releases from jail, she was sent to the crisei stabilzation unit. The first five times, I had no idea what that even was. But, after I found out, my sister ( her mother) camped out in the parking lot all day. I live 500 miles away. She watched the ambulance pull up with her daughter in a straight jacket, tied to a wheelchair. She waited for 7 hours. She felt so discouraged and she needed to use the restroom, and decided to give up. I texted her one simple word." Wait. " Within moments the social worker whom she had given the paperwork to came out to her car and let her know that he went in while the psychiatrist evaluted her, and made him read the evidence we had prepared. They sent her to an acute care facility. We still think of this social worker as our angel. You did not mention if your daughter abuses substances. This could have a lot to do with her violent behavior. A typical schizophrenic is not violent. But a person can be known as schizoaffective- they are similar- but a schizoaffective person tends to be abusive and violent as they are wapped up in and controlled by their delusions. My niece threatend to kill my sister and her siblings. She stabbed her older sister. I would not have believed any of this except that my sister had video cameras installed focused on the window that my niece used to go in and out of her bedroom which was in the garage. While her family was trying to hold her at bay she kept attacking them. When police arrived they had to wrangle her to the ground as she swung, and kicked and bit them. She also attacked the paramedics. She was charged with battery and violating a restraining order. I know it is just a piece of paper, but perhaps you can file a restraining order against her. It sounds to me like she will violate it, and then she will be taken back to jail. I know that doesnt help her, but at least you will be safe. My niece takes a monthly injection antipsychotic medication. She was given a hearing, and forced to take the injection against her will, but I believe that law only exists in California. I know of another woman with an adidcted daughter, whom burned down the shed in their backyard that they were allowing her to live in. When she was once again taken to jail, they moved, and changed their phone numbers and got different jobs so that their daughter would not be able to find them ever again. It sounds so extreme, doesnt it? But your safety is your number one concern. I dont know your situation however. When my niece was here for a week after I picked her up, I slept with one eye open, if and when I could actually sleep. I was also afraid she would jump out of my car while it was moving, as she has done that before as the need for drugs overcame her common sense. It was gut wrenching and heartbreaking to drive around looking for her just to bring her food, or coffee or clean underwear. She relocated to another city near the jail, so as soon as she got out she could get her fix. We found this out by asking the local homeless crowd if anyone had seen her. We found her very near the area that her "informant" said she was last seen. She was almost unreconizable, and deep in one of her delusions, one of which was an officer in the army, as she spoke to her soldiers, giving orders and waving her arms. My sister was afraid to approach her, so I was left to approach alone. When I called her name she swung around and looked me straight in the eyes. Her demeanor changed and suddenly she was the sweet innocent little girl, and I could see it in her eyes that she was pleading for help, although she did not speak those words. I took her in my car and got her some food, as she had been eating from a garbage dumpster. She would not go with me that day, but when I left her she crumpled into a fetal position and wept. It broke my heart. That is what made me even more detemined to get her the help she so desperately deserved. She got arrested again about a month later. Do you have any kind of conservatorship or guardianship laws in your state? I would check into that, because even though that is also just a piece of paper it is a court order, and she will be required to comply, or face incareration. One really has to go all the extra miles and plead and beg for help. I felt bad conserving her, and she still has no idea how any of this happened. One day she was smoking fentanyl on the street , and the next day she was incarcerated, and then placed in an acute care facility. it was a lot of work for me as well. Hours of phone calls every day. but now she is safe and stable, and my sister can sleep at night for the first tme in 15 years. Other than that night about 10 days ago when she overdosed on fentanyl she stayed clean for 6 months. I talk to her every single day by telephone, and I actually look forward to her calls. She realizes that now she has a lifeline. She is begining to open up and trust again, as she tells me about her day, her group therapy, her rommate that snores like a freight train, and I will do and say anything to hear her laugh ter again, and begin to have hope in her future. Recovery is possible, all it takes is one little spark, one day at a time. She is worth it. Your daughter is worth it. Never give up. [/QUOTE]
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