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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 741551" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Autistics tend to understand rules unless they are very severe. That isnt autism, at least most. Autistics tend to be tje victim, not bully. </p><p></p><p>Some people cant get it. Some people do what they want and pretend they don't get it and are only upset when they get caught. Some oeople hurt others on purpose and understand it. How can they? They are empathy challenged. People dont matter to them. They go after what they want and too bad if it harms another.</p><p></p><p>There ARE people with no empathy. Sure they are sick but they are also a danger to society and need to be confined. I doubt anyone would argue that Charles Manson wasnt sick. People dont think like him. Not mentally sound people. But he cant be at large. But there are people without empathy who dont go as far as murder. Sexual abusers are the same.</p><p></p><p>Our foster/adopted son admitted in residential that he knew killing animals lying and molestation was wrong. His gig was up. He had to talk. But his biggest concern was would we give him his toys, and he never asked how anyone was. He didnt care. His case manager had to talk to us as</p><p> It took years for the legal adoption to end so we were privy to his life in aprison for young offenders. Had he shown any remorse we may have parented him from afar but he never did. In fact in residential lockdown he was caught trying to perp on another kid a few years later.</p><p></p><p>He had attachment disorder severe. That was all that was ever found under extreme testing, scrutiny and mental health services. Was that the right diagnoses? I believe it was one of them. But as I have often brought up here, psychiatry is inexact. There are no blood tests to prove a diagnosis. The DSM is just the current book and ever changing. That is all psychiatry has so often the doctors are wrong or confused or ten doctors come up with ten different diagnoses. </p><p></p><p>So R. could have also been more than Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD). Psychiatriats, before he was found molesting kids, wrote down that he was a nice well adjusted sweet kid who was just borderline slow in IQ (high 80s).</p><p></p><p>There is no way as of 2018 to prove what is wrong for certain in somebodys mind. All we can do is observe that certain people are dangerous for some reason. And doctors can try to figure out why. But thats guesswork.</p><p></p><p>SS is dangerous for some reason. He seems in my opinion not to not understand the rules but to want to break serious sexual and other rules then act panicked when he is caught. Not because he doesnt know. Because he was caught and wants no consequences. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Copa your son is so different. He has no history of hurting society on purpose, just himself. No sexual abuse or lack of consccience. He has to battle challenges like drugs in utero and head injuries and for him these could be a factor. He is not a threat to society. He is more vulnerable and apt to be bullied rather than bully. He wont follow your rules because he wont quit pot, which he knows is a bottom line. Maybe pot is essential in his mind to his functionality so he could be terrified to give it up. More terrified than living on the streets. But if my kids met J, they would not fear him and he would not hurt them. I think this is apples and oranges. Your boy is not dangerous to others at all. Never has been.</p><p></p><p>SS was born into a loving family as a healthy infant and had no head injuries or traumas to do this to him. My son either. Both lack empathy. I would not feel comfortable alone with my son because i dont trust his behavior. Why is he like this? He was always like this. He had therapy until I couldnt legally force it anymore. </p><p></p><p>It seems he learned nothing from life or therapy and he still lacks empathy. Some people do. They are not safe, no matter why they dont have empathy. My son is not a physical threat to others but he can use people in a bad way and not care. Gives me the chills.</p><p></p><p>I truly think SS is in that lack of empathy category.</p><p></p><p>I hope the other kids continue to be protected from him. Maybe forever. My three angel kids want nothing to do with Bart. They have heard him yell and swear at me. They dont know the rest but that is enough for good people to reject others.</p><p></p><p>Ok, off the soap box. Maybe he will shock me and show empathy. At any rate, for whatever reason, he is currently willing to do harm and that is never accrptable. The sexual stuff is a huge ref flag.</p><p></p><p>Just my two cents.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 741551, member: 1550"] Autistics tend to understand rules unless they are very severe. That isnt autism, at least most. Autistics tend to be tje victim, not bully. Some people cant get it. Some people do what they want and pretend they don't get it and are only upset when they get caught. Some oeople hurt others on purpose and understand it. How can they? They are empathy challenged. People dont matter to them. They go after what they want and too bad if it harms another. There ARE people with no empathy. Sure they are sick but they are also a danger to society and need to be confined. I doubt anyone would argue that Charles Manson wasnt sick. People dont think like him. Not mentally sound people. But he cant be at large. But there are people without empathy who dont go as far as murder. Sexual abusers are the same. Our foster/adopted son admitted in residential that he knew killing animals lying and molestation was wrong. His gig was up. He had to talk. But his biggest concern was would we give him his toys, and he never asked how anyone was. He didnt care. His case manager had to talk to us as It took years for the legal adoption to end so we were privy to his life in aprison for young offenders. Had he shown any remorse we may have parented him from afar but he never did. In fact in residential lockdown he was caught trying to perp on another kid a few years later. He had attachment disorder severe. That was all that was ever found under extreme testing, scrutiny and mental health services. Was that the right diagnoses? I believe it was one of them. But as I have often brought up here, psychiatry is inexact. There are no blood tests to prove a diagnosis. The DSM is just the current book and ever changing. That is all psychiatry has so often the doctors are wrong or confused or ten doctors come up with ten different diagnoses. So R. could have also been more than Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD). Psychiatriats, before he was found molesting kids, wrote down that he was a nice well adjusted sweet kid who was just borderline slow in IQ (high 80s). There is no way as of 2018 to prove what is wrong for certain in somebodys mind. All we can do is observe that certain people are dangerous for some reason. And doctors can try to figure out why. But thats guesswork. SS is dangerous for some reason. He seems in my opinion not to not understand the rules but to want to break serious sexual and other rules then act panicked when he is caught. Not because he doesnt know. Because he was caught and wants no consequences. Copa your son is so different. He has no history of hurting society on purpose, just himself. No sexual abuse or lack of consccience. He has to battle challenges like drugs in utero and head injuries and for him these could be a factor. He is not a threat to society. He is more vulnerable and apt to be bullied rather than bully. He wont follow your rules because he wont quit pot, which he knows is a bottom line. Maybe pot is essential in his mind to his functionality so he could be terrified to give it up. More terrified than living on the streets. But if my kids met J, they would not fear him and he would not hurt them. I think this is apples and oranges. Your boy is not dangerous to others at all. Never has been. SS was born into a loving family as a healthy infant and had no head injuries or traumas to do this to him. My son either. Both lack empathy. I would not feel comfortable alone with my son because i dont trust his behavior. Why is he like this? He was always like this. He had therapy until I couldnt legally force it anymore. It seems he learned nothing from life or therapy and he still lacks empathy. Some people do. They are not safe, no matter why they dont have empathy. My son is not a physical threat to others but he can use people in a bad way and not care. Gives me the chills. I truly think SS is in that lack of empathy category. I hope the other kids continue to be protected from him. Maybe forever. My three angel kids want nothing to do with Bart. They have heard him yell and swear at me. They dont know the rest but that is enough for good people to reject others. Ok, off the soap box. Maybe he will shock me and show empathy. At any rate, for whatever reason, he is currently willing to do harm and that is never accrptable. The sexual stuff is a huge ref flag. Just my two cents. [/QUOTE]
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