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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 184247" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I'd be contacting the DOT again and ask what the contingency is for a student who feels very uncomfortable around her driver's ed tutor. We raise our kids to speak up when they feel uncomfortable and to say when they get bad vibes - so to force her to do her test with this man is sending a bad message. If DOT insist she do it with this man, then I think THEY are sending a bad messaage.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, she needn't have anything specific to formally complain about, just a bad vibe or a personality clash. If it becomes obvious that she is stalling or insisting that she has this problem sequentially with every driver's ed instructor, then DOT might say, "Hang on, we can't keep making arrangements just for one kid with a bad case of nerves."</p><p></p><p>But this surely must happen from time to time? There can be personality clashes with driving instructors. a kid might feel uncomfortable even if the instructor has done nothing wrong - they still should have the right to be independently assessed.</p><p></p><p>This could be a case of the big differences between the US method and the Aussie one. Here, we can either learn privately or go to a driving school. But the final test MUST be done with the official DOT people.</p><p>I did my lessons through a driving school. I'd already done a lot of driving lessons privately with husband, plus done most of a driving course a few years earlier, but not been able to organise my test before all the paperwork expired. So I did know how to drive, I just didn't have my licence.</p><p>But to make sure I got my licence through fairly quickly and efficiently, I organised for driving lessons through a driving school.</p><p></p><p>The first lesson - the instructor was good, I got on well with him. But he wasn't well, he took sick leave. The next instructor was a woman who for some weird reason, was very snappy. She made me nervous and I really didn't want to be taught by her again. I was wondering what to do about it, I wanted to complain but there really wasn't anything to complain about other than a personality clash. But my next lesson - she wasn't there, she had taken herself off my classes because SHE had the sense to realise her attitude and my attitude just weren't going to work together. The third instructor - I had no problems.</p><p></p><p>easy child also learnt through a driving school and went for her test. The examiner is never the teacher in our case - the examiner she had was horrible to her, shouted at her mid-test (which they're not supposed to do) and as a result she was so rattled she failed the test (stalled the car mid-intersection).</p><p>The instructor normally paid for the first test, the student has to pay for a repeat test if she fails. But in this case, he must have said something and arranged for a repeat test with no fee.</p><p></p><p>So there should be some contingency in place for a student who really feels very uncomfortable around her instructor. She should be able to be given her test either by a DOT official, or another nominated instructor. She shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable because the driver should always have some say in who is a passenger in their car.</p><p></p><p>I hope this is possible for her. Morally, I think it should be. </p><p></p><p>And she does have to learn that there are ways to overcome these sort of problems. You can't just walk away and pretend there is no problem. You have to find a way around it. But it shouldn't mean she has to put up with someone who sounds like a problem, in a number of ways.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 184247, member: 1991"] I'd be contacting the DOT again and ask what the contingency is for a student who feels very uncomfortable around her driver's ed tutor. We raise our kids to speak up when they feel uncomfortable and to say when they get bad vibes - so to force her to do her test with this man is sending a bad message. If DOT insist she do it with this man, then I think THEY are sending a bad messaage. Mind you, she needn't have anything specific to formally complain about, just a bad vibe or a personality clash. If it becomes obvious that she is stalling or insisting that she has this problem sequentially with every driver's ed instructor, then DOT might say, "Hang on, we can't keep making arrangements just for one kid with a bad case of nerves." But this surely must happen from time to time? There can be personality clashes with driving instructors. a kid might feel uncomfortable even if the instructor has done nothing wrong - they still should have the right to be independently assessed. This could be a case of the big differences between the US method and the Aussie one. Here, we can either learn privately or go to a driving school. But the final test MUST be done with the official DOT people. I did my lessons through a driving school. I'd already done a lot of driving lessons privately with husband, plus done most of a driving course a few years earlier, but not been able to organise my test before all the paperwork expired. So I did know how to drive, I just didn't have my licence. But to make sure I got my licence through fairly quickly and efficiently, I organised for driving lessons through a driving school. The first lesson - the instructor was good, I got on well with him. But he wasn't well, he took sick leave. The next instructor was a woman who for some weird reason, was very snappy. She made me nervous and I really didn't want to be taught by her again. I was wondering what to do about it, I wanted to complain but there really wasn't anything to complain about other than a personality clash. But my next lesson - she wasn't there, she had taken herself off my classes because SHE had the sense to realise her attitude and my attitude just weren't going to work together. The third instructor - I had no problems. easy child also learnt through a driving school and went for her test. The examiner is never the teacher in our case - the examiner she had was horrible to her, shouted at her mid-test (which they're not supposed to do) and as a result she was so rattled she failed the test (stalled the car mid-intersection). The instructor normally paid for the first test, the student has to pay for a repeat test if she fails. But in this case, he must have said something and arranged for a repeat test with no fee. So there should be some contingency in place for a student who really feels very uncomfortable around her instructor. She should be able to be given her test either by a DOT official, or another nominated instructor. She shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable because the driver should always have some say in who is a passenger in their car. I hope this is possible for her. Morally, I think it should be. And she does have to learn that there are ways to overcome these sort of problems. You can't just walk away and pretend there is no problem. You have to find a way around it. But it shouldn't mean she has to put up with someone who sounds like a problem, in a number of ways. Marg [/QUOTE]
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