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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 385774" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>You can often get depression as a result of not fitting in or of not being able to cope for all sorts of reasons. I know my kids were depressed, badly, as a result of problems at school and problems with friendships. We had difficult child 1 on suicide watch for two years.</p><p></p><p>The irritability can be sensory overload, or it can be frustration, or all sorts of other things. The ODD-like behaviours (yelling back at school staff; walking away etc) can often be his response to how other people treat him. I found with easy child 2/difficult child 2 and difficult child 3 especially, that they treated other people in the same way those people treated them. So I would often hear myself coming back at me from their mouths. Imagine a two year old girl, hands on hips, telling you off for failing to provide her with the drink of choice she requested (and which I chose to not give her, since it would have been her third straight glass of it and it was time to have plain water for a change). </p><p></p><p>A Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, also even a kid with just ADHD, can feel that they have no control over what happens to them. They try to assert control and often will fight hard for it. When we try to manage their behaviours by asserting control over them, it can trigger a stronger fight from them for control and the problem can escalate. That's where a switch to Ross Greene's methods can break the negative cycle and begin to get positive results.</p><p></p><p>These kids don't want to be bad. They want to please us. But often they feel backed into a corner and lash out the only way they know how.</p><p></p><p>Your son has a whole lot of issues possibly tangled up in there. It is possible to have a combination of problems. The PTSD should not be discounted, but good therapy can do a lot to help there. For the possible Asperger's, have a look at the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire on <a href="http://www.childbrain.com" target="_blank">www.childbrain.com</a> and see what it indicates. Print it out and take a copy to the next psychiatrist your son sees, even if he scores normal. It can still show the sort of things that are concerning you.</p><p></p><p>Develop your own working hypothesis, and use this to get through until you get more professional, certain information. But even when you do feel more confident in a diagnosis, never expect some health professional to be able to step in, take over and take away your workload in helping your son. The best help and therapy your child can ever get, will come from you and what you instinctively put in place for your child. You do what you can, you think outside the square and if something helps, do it more. if something doesn't help, drop it. That is how, over time, you develop the best therapy possible, by yourself. Any professionals tat come along and can help - use them. But in the long run, it is down to you and down to your child. All the others are assists, tools, adjuncts. Nothing more.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 385774, member: 1991"] You can often get depression as a result of not fitting in or of not being able to cope for all sorts of reasons. I know my kids were depressed, badly, as a result of problems at school and problems with friendships. We had difficult child 1 on suicide watch for two years. The irritability can be sensory overload, or it can be frustration, or all sorts of other things. The ODD-like behaviours (yelling back at school staff; walking away etc) can often be his response to how other people treat him. I found with easy child 2/difficult child 2 and difficult child 3 especially, that they treated other people in the same way those people treated them. So I would often hear myself coming back at me from their mouths. Imagine a two year old girl, hands on hips, telling you off for failing to provide her with the drink of choice she requested (and which I chose to not give her, since it would have been her third straight glass of it and it was time to have plain water for a change). A Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) kid, also even a kid with just ADHD, can feel that they have no control over what happens to them. They try to assert control and often will fight hard for it. When we try to manage their behaviours by asserting control over them, it can trigger a stronger fight from them for control and the problem can escalate. That's where a switch to Ross Greene's methods can break the negative cycle and begin to get positive results. These kids don't want to be bad. They want to please us. But often they feel backed into a corner and lash out the only way they know how. Your son has a whole lot of issues possibly tangled up in there. It is possible to have a combination of problems. The PTSD should not be discounted, but good therapy can do a lot to help there. For the possible Asperger's, have a look at the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire on [url]www.childbrain.com[/url] and see what it indicates. Print it out and take a copy to the next psychiatrist your son sees, even if he scores normal. It can still show the sort of things that are concerning you. Develop your own working hypothesis, and use this to get through until you get more professional, certain information. But even when you do feel more confident in a diagnosis, never expect some health professional to be able to step in, take over and take away your workload in helping your son. The best help and therapy your child can ever get, will come from you and what you instinctively put in place for your child. You do what you can, you think outside the square and if something helps, do it more. if something doesn't help, drop it. That is how, over time, you develop the best therapy possible, by yourself. Any professionals tat come along and can help - use them. But in the long run, it is down to you and down to your child. All the others are assists, tools, adjuncts. Nothing more. Marg [/QUOTE]
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