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<blockquote data-quote="helpangel" data-source="post: 529098" data-attributes="member: 7170"><p>Wow I got so many lightbulbs going off right now the inside of my head must look like ... ok I'll try to focus LOL</p><p></p><p>First I know what you mean about it seems she has control - I agree they do have control to a point. Yesterday when Angel got suspended and I got to the school she was right on that fine line - face red, wild eyes, yelling- I knew with one look she was a whisper away from a full blown rage (which is going to require ambulance and half dozen cops to get her into it) I lucked out that when I got nose to nose with her and said "UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO THE PERP WALK OUT OF HERE IN HANDCUFFS BACK IT DOWN NOW!" that she did turn it off; she was so close could have easily gotten me hurt. I figured if she is gonna attack someone it was going to be me or wouldn't have made eye contact or gotten that close.</p><p></p><p>Self control was once explained to me that the child uses all the control they have to hold it together with school or Gma etc. that once they get home where its safe they let all that pent up rage fly. If only raging around you its because she trusts you enough to dump the act.</p><p></p><p>Food - my cousin's son his milk allergy didn't show up until he was 5yo and wasn't discovered until he was almost 7yo luckily it was discovered because they were running out of options where he was going to go to school. What threw them so much was kid never drank milk, ice cream coated his tongue etc. the only milk he got was the tiny amount that wet his cereal. The aggresive outbursts from the milk were off the charts.</p><p></p><p>Angel's whole problem isn't from food sensitivities but there is some chemical in any of that orange cheese powder that acts like you just threw gas on a candle flame. box mac-n-cheese, cheetos, cheez-its all that stuff banned from my house unless it is the white cheddar she is fine with those.</p><p></p><p>Charting - the internet has lots of programs for charting my problem is couldn't fit computer in my purse so if have a charting app on phone skip this paragraph if not read on. I used month at a glance calendar with big boxes, along with many pens red/anger, blue/sad, purple/sexual stuff, orange/stealing, green/food suspects. At 6yo Angel was admitted to psychiatric hospital (3 years of calendars went with her) they noticed a trend a couple weeks with a few notes then color explosion over and over 3 years of it, it also let them see specific dates to look at my journals (several books at that point) for more information. Figure out what ever color code works for you apparently the fact I had purple ink talking about a 3-6yo was a big red flag for psychiatrists.</p><p></p><p>OK no I'm not writing a book but gonna end with I was at the crisis center with Angel probably a dozen times before got any real help for her. Yes first trip the CC psychiatrist started Depakote but had such an heavy accent the only thing I comprehended out of everything she said was "severe psychological problems" - it wasn't until 3 months later when she went manic at school, was still manic when pediatrician saw her said go to ER, ER saw her manic / medically cleared her said go to crisis center, crisis center psychiatrist said "in 10 minutes I've been trying to get info on what's going on that little girl has run my whole staff ragged" and admitted her to a psychiatric hospital. school called a little after 9am didn't get her to psychiatric hospital till around 10 that night.</p><p></p><p>I guess the point I'm making is in the beginning regardless of what you are reporting the professionals need to see the kid raging and not able to be brought under control before they are going to fully believe it. Also don't forget to look for medical causes as there are countless ones that could be causing these behaviors</p><p></p><p>I know broken record - full neuro psychiatric evaluation (wish someone had said those words to me when Angel was 3yo)</p><p>As with anything you read on the internet if any of my rambling is useful use it and disregard the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helpangel, post: 529098, member: 7170"] Wow I got so many lightbulbs going off right now the inside of my head must look like ... ok I'll try to focus LOL First I know what you mean about it seems she has control - I agree they do have control to a point. Yesterday when Angel got suspended and I got to the school she was right on that fine line - face red, wild eyes, yelling- I knew with one look she was a whisper away from a full blown rage (which is going to require ambulance and half dozen cops to get her into it) I lucked out that when I got nose to nose with her and said "UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO THE PERP WALK OUT OF HERE IN HANDCUFFS BACK IT DOWN NOW!" that she did turn it off; she was so close could have easily gotten me hurt. I figured if she is gonna attack someone it was going to be me or wouldn't have made eye contact or gotten that close. Self control was once explained to me that the child uses all the control they have to hold it together with school or Gma etc. that once they get home where its safe they let all that pent up rage fly. If only raging around you its because she trusts you enough to dump the act. Food - my cousin's son his milk allergy didn't show up until he was 5yo and wasn't discovered until he was almost 7yo luckily it was discovered because they were running out of options where he was going to go to school. What threw them so much was kid never drank milk, ice cream coated his tongue etc. the only milk he got was the tiny amount that wet his cereal. The aggresive outbursts from the milk were off the charts. Angel's whole problem isn't from food sensitivities but there is some chemical in any of that orange cheese powder that acts like you just threw gas on a candle flame. box mac-n-cheese, cheetos, cheez-its all that stuff banned from my house unless it is the white cheddar she is fine with those. Charting - the internet has lots of programs for charting my problem is couldn't fit computer in my purse so if have a charting app on phone skip this paragraph if not read on. I used month at a glance calendar with big boxes, along with many pens red/anger, blue/sad, purple/sexual stuff, orange/stealing, green/food suspects. At 6yo Angel was admitted to psychiatric hospital (3 years of calendars went with her) they noticed a trend a couple weeks with a few notes then color explosion over and over 3 years of it, it also let them see specific dates to look at my journals (several books at that point) for more information. Figure out what ever color code works for you apparently the fact I had purple ink talking about a 3-6yo was a big red flag for psychiatrists. OK no I'm not writing a book but gonna end with I was at the crisis center with Angel probably a dozen times before got any real help for her. Yes first trip the CC psychiatrist started Depakote but had such an heavy accent the only thing I comprehended out of everything she said was "severe psychological problems" - it wasn't until 3 months later when she went manic at school, was still manic when pediatrician saw her said go to ER, ER saw her manic / medically cleared her said go to crisis center, crisis center psychiatrist said "in 10 minutes I've been trying to get info on what's going on that little girl has run my whole staff ragged" and admitted her to a psychiatric hospital. school called a little after 9am didn't get her to psychiatric hospital till around 10 that night. I guess the point I'm making is in the beginning regardless of what you are reporting the professionals need to see the kid raging and not able to be brought under control before they are going to fully believe it. Also don't forget to look for medical causes as there are countless ones that could be causing these behaviors I know broken record - full neuro psychiatric evaluation (wish someone had said those words to me when Angel was 3yo) As with anything you read on the internet if any of my rambling is useful use it and disregard the rest. [/QUOTE]
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