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Some of what the Pittsburgh terror brings up for me
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<blockquote data-quote="AppleCori" data-source="post: 741891" data-attributes="member: 16024"><p>Copa,</p><p></p><p>It is so cool that you are learning Hebrew.</p><p></p><p>I read a book about it once, and I still remember it was described as the language of God. It was fascinating, the way the language goes together. </p><p></p><p>So much of the problem with conspiracy theories is the way it spreads on the internet. This is our new reality.</p><p></p><p>I have a relative who is mentally ill and has a belief in “gangstalking” and has found a huge community of like-minded people on the internet to reinforce his beliefs. Many of these people are also mentally ill.</p><p></p><p>By the way, gangstalking has nothing to do with gangs as we understand them. My relative believes that some group (at various times, the government, a foreign government, a shadowy organization that really controls the world, the Bulgarian mafia, or some other powerful group of people) is sending random people, neighbors, sometimes even friends or relatives to watch him at all times.</p><p></p><p>I have read up on this and watched some of the gangstalking ‘victims’ videos on YouTube. Some believe their tormentors are aliens, some believe it is a religious battle of good (them) against the forces of darkness and his minions. Governmental stalking is a dominant belief system, and some believe their mind (or sometimes their stalkers’ minds) are being controlled by the government (voice to skull, they call it). Many think the Freemasons are behind their torment. </p><p></p><p>Ideas such as these (and many other types) have always been around, but never before have their beliefs been reinforced by thousands of other like-minded (often mentally ill) people. If someone disbelieves them, that person is accused of being a gang stalker, or ‘perp’ or in on the conspiracy. At least two mass shootings in the last few years have been committed by people in this community. One man was a lawyer. These people are felt by their peers to have been driven to their crimes by their stalkers. They all call themselves ‘Targets’ or ‘targeted individuals’. Some even openly advocate violence to stop their stalkers and draw attention to their plight and show the world that this truly happening to them.</p><p></p><p>The people are much less likely to seek help when their beliefs are reinforced by a large community of like-minded people. Confirmation bias. Also, they are often counseled not to take medication or go to a doctor or psychiatrist by the group. </p><p></p><p>And, if you look up ‘gang stalking’ in the Urban Dictionary, it is treated as a real phenomenon. </p><p></p><p>Some people even sell items online which, they proport, will protect ‘victims’ from mind control or surveillance.</p><p></p><p>So, everything is not always as it seems on the surface, and I don’t think we truly understand how much mental health plays into these various unusual beliefs, and occasionally, crimes. I think we put way too much emphasis on politics and too little on mental health and the real reasons some of these crimes happen. </p><p></p><p>I know this is a bit off topic, but I thought I would throw this out for consideration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AppleCori, post: 741891, member: 16024"] Copa, It is so cool that you are learning Hebrew. I read a book about it once, and I still remember it was described as the language of God. It was fascinating, the way the language goes together. So much of the problem with conspiracy theories is the way it spreads on the internet. This is our new reality. I have a relative who is mentally ill and has a belief in “gangstalking” and has found a huge community of like-minded people on the internet to reinforce his beliefs. Many of these people are also mentally ill. By the way, gangstalking has nothing to do with gangs as we understand them. My relative believes that some group (at various times, the government, a foreign government, a shadowy organization that really controls the world, the Bulgarian mafia, or some other powerful group of people) is sending random people, neighbors, sometimes even friends or relatives to watch him at all times. I have read up on this and watched some of the gangstalking ‘victims’ videos on YouTube. Some believe their tormentors are aliens, some believe it is a religious battle of good (them) against the forces of darkness and his minions. Governmental stalking is a dominant belief system, and some believe their mind (or sometimes their stalkers’ minds) are being controlled by the government (voice to skull, they call it). Many think the Freemasons are behind their torment. Ideas such as these (and many other types) have always been around, but never before have their beliefs been reinforced by thousands of other like-minded (often mentally ill) people. If someone disbelieves them, that person is accused of being a gang stalker, or ‘perp’ or in on the conspiracy. At least two mass shootings in the last few years have been committed by people in this community. One man was a lawyer. These people are felt by their peers to have been driven to their crimes by their stalkers. They all call themselves ‘Targets’ or ‘targeted individuals’. Some even openly advocate violence to stop their stalkers and draw attention to their plight and show the world that this truly happening to them. The people are much less likely to seek help when their beliefs are reinforced by a large community of like-minded people. Confirmation bias. Also, they are often counseled not to take medication or go to a doctor or psychiatrist by the group. And, if you look up ‘gang stalking’ in the Urban Dictionary, it is treated as a real phenomenon. Some people even sell items online which, they proport, will protect ‘victims’ from mind control or surveillance. So, everything is not always as it seems on the surface, and I don’t think we truly understand how much mental health plays into these various unusual beliefs, and occasionally, crimes. I think we put way too much emphasis on politics and too little on mental health and the real reasons some of these crimes happen. I know this is a bit off topic, but I thought I would throw this out for consideration. [/QUOTE]
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