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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 645686" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>I tend to have little difficult time working up moral outrage over petty crime so what actually struck me is how totally clueless your son seem to be. If he is not mentally challenged (as in very low iq) he certainly doesn't strick me as a 'normal.' Whole thought process is just so clueless.</p><p></p><p>"I don't have money to get something I want =></p><p>I need to get money =></p><p>I will steal something and sell it (and DVDs certainly are not the go to item of professional shoplifters) =></p><p>I do it so badly I do get caught=></p><p>When the police asks, I tell everything, even the things they have no way of knowing if I don't tell"</p><p></p><p>That really is something. In my neck of woods confessing would actually make sense because after that police would write you your ticket for petty theft and that would be it. If you would deny the crime you would have to go to court to get that same fine so much less inconvenience to have it right away from the police (and then you would either lay that fine or not, if not it would cause you troubles down the road, but it being way down the road any self respecting 19-year-old difficult child would not care about that.) But in your system it sounds like pure stupidity to confess in that point.</p><p></p><p>Him being this clueless (and unable not to get caught) do you think that being scared with some jail time or something like that could actually work? For most it doesn't really work because either they do not think consequences at all before they do something or they think that they will not be caught, but your kid certainly makes it sure he will be caught if nothing else.</p><p></p><p>When my Insolent Whelp was stealing (outside of home), while his reason of course was the need of money, both to finance future gambling and to pay his gambling debts to his friends, but the stupidity of it (he too made it sure he would be caught and also that the consequences would be much worse than that fine he would have gotten if he would have stolen from elsewhere) was motivated by his mental and emotional needs (need for revenge and going for it in very passive-aggresive and self destructive ways.) Point being my Whelps behaviour was not normal either and I wish we would have really understood that already then.</p><p></p><p>Motivations or abnormality of the behaviour of course doesn't make the illegal deeds okay, but they do change what kind of methods can be effective when dealing with the offender.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 645686, member: 14557"] I tend to have little difficult time working up moral outrage over petty crime so what actually struck me is how totally clueless your son seem to be. If he is not mentally challenged (as in very low iq) he certainly doesn't strick me as a 'normal.' Whole thought process is just so clueless. "I don't have money to get something I want => I need to get money => I will steal something and sell it (and DVDs certainly are not the go to item of professional shoplifters) => I do it so badly I do get caught=> When the police asks, I tell everything, even the things they have no way of knowing if I don't tell" That really is something. In my neck of woods confessing would actually make sense because after that police would write you your ticket for petty theft and that would be it. If you would deny the crime you would have to go to court to get that same fine so much less inconvenience to have it right away from the police (and then you would either lay that fine or not, if not it would cause you troubles down the road, but it being way down the road any self respecting 19-year-old difficult child would not care about that.) But in your system it sounds like pure stupidity to confess in that point. Him being this clueless (and unable not to get caught) do you think that being scared with some jail time or something like that could actually work? For most it doesn't really work because either they do not think consequences at all before they do something or they think that they will not be caught, but your kid certainly makes it sure he will be caught if nothing else. When my Insolent Whelp was stealing (outside of home), while his reason of course was the need of money, both to finance future gambling and to pay his gambling debts to his friends, but the stupidity of it (he too made it sure he would be caught and also that the consequences would be much worse than that fine he would have gotten if he would have stolen from elsewhere) was motivated by his mental and emotional needs (need for revenge and going for it in very passive-aggresive and self destructive ways.) Point being my Whelps behaviour was not normal either and I wish we would have really understood that already then. Motivations or abnormality of the behaviour of course doesn't make the illegal deeds okay, but they do change what kind of methods can be effective when dealing with the offender. [/QUOTE]
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