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<blockquote data-quote="Deni D" data-source="post: 760171" data-attributes="member: 22840"><p>Thank you all for your replies and your prayers. </p><p></p><p>My son called again tonight. I started off by trying to make it a light conversation, but as usual it was not possible with my son. At least he's still in the hospital. </p><p></p><p>I told him again tonight that I would be willing to go to therapy with him once he felt he was settled down enough. He proceeded to accuse me of "storming out" of a therapy session years ago where supposedly it was suggested to me that his issues were all around me not accepting a diagnosis of him having PTSD from my abuse instead of his very long-term bipolar diagnosis. And then after storming out I supposedly came back into this particular session as if there was nothing wrong. And at that time he was offered contact with child protective services for him because he was not an adult. I kept telling him I did not remember this therapist session and kept pushing him for where this was (he's had a few therapists through the years), telling him I was willing to make an appointment with them to go and find out what happened. I figured if he thought I would actually be willing to invest in his claims it would calm him down a bit. It didn't work, I guess because deep down no matter how confused he is he knows it's only his desperate attempt to not take responsibility for himself. </p><p></p><p>I just don't know what he really believes verses what he knows he makes up out of his desperation. Dealing with someone with a severe mental illness is like that. </p><p></p><p>He couldn't remember which therapist this was with but he went on to telling me I would "storm out" of any therapy session I didn't like and how I "lie" about everything that doesn't work for the image I want to portray about myself. Image? Really? He has no idea of how real I am with the people around me, there's nothing much to protect, it's just so laughable. Not an "image" that needs protecting for sure. </p><p></p><p>So according to him therapy together would not work unless I was willing to admit how I lie about everything. I told him over and over I wasn't lying but didn't remember these things and that if someone really believes something for them it wasn't lying. My motive was to give him an out on the seemingly altered dimension he lives in. I don't know if a seed was planted or not. He was told after a bit by someone at the unit he had to get off of the phone, that the phones were being turned off. He called me earlier than he did last night so maybe they did not like what they were hearing from him and just decided to stop him. Hopefully they are observing him because he's certainly not stable, not even close. </p><p></p><p>I'm grateful though, grateful he's still there, longer than the 72 hour typical hold, hope this one goes long enough. </p><p></p><p>MissLulu </p><p></p><p>Thank you so much, I took that hug and felt it across the interweaves as if you were here in my living room with me, I loved it. It is returned right back to you, big hug, shoulders slightly lifting as we ever so slightly rock back and forth, deep soul reaching, friendship, only as sisters from another mother, from our life's circumstances can create as a connection only we can understand. I'm sending the same hug to everyone out there in our world tonight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deni D, post: 760171, member: 22840"] Thank you all for your replies and your prayers. My son called again tonight. I started off by trying to make it a light conversation, but as usual it was not possible with my son. At least he's still in the hospital. I told him again tonight that I would be willing to go to therapy with him once he felt he was settled down enough. He proceeded to accuse me of "storming out" of a therapy session years ago where supposedly it was suggested to me that his issues were all around me not accepting a diagnosis of him having PTSD from my abuse instead of his very long-term bipolar diagnosis. And then after storming out I supposedly came back into this particular session as if there was nothing wrong. And at that time he was offered contact with child protective services for him because he was not an adult. I kept telling him I did not remember this therapist session and kept pushing him for where this was (he's had a few therapists through the years), telling him I was willing to make an appointment with them to go and find out what happened. I figured if he thought I would actually be willing to invest in his claims it would calm him down a bit. It didn't work, I guess because deep down no matter how confused he is he knows it's only his desperate attempt to not take responsibility for himself. I just don't know what he really believes verses what he knows he makes up out of his desperation. Dealing with someone with a severe mental illness is like that. He couldn't remember which therapist this was with but he went on to telling me I would "storm out" of any therapy session I didn't like and how I "lie" about everything that doesn't work for the image I want to portray about myself. Image? Really? He has no idea of how real I am with the people around me, there's nothing much to protect, it's just so laughable. Not an "image" that needs protecting for sure. So according to him therapy together would not work unless I was willing to admit how I lie about everything. I told him over and over I wasn't lying but didn't remember these things and that if someone really believes something for them it wasn't lying. My motive was to give him an out on the seemingly altered dimension he lives in. I don't know if a seed was planted or not. He was told after a bit by someone at the unit he had to get off of the phone, that the phones were being turned off. He called me earlier than he did last night so maybe they did not like what they were hearing from him and just decided to stop him. Hopefully they are observing him because he's certainly not stable, not even close. I'm grateful though, grateful he's still there, longer than the 72 hour typical hold, hope this one goes long enough. MissLulu Thank you so much, I took that hug and felt it across the interweaves as if you were here in my living room with me, I loved it. It is returned right back to you, big hug, shoulders slightly lifting as we ever so slightly rock back and forth, deep soul reaching, friendship, only as sisters from another mother, from our life's circumstances can create as a connection only we can understand. I'm sending the same hug to everyone out there in our world tonight. [/QUOTE]
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