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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 592096" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>Malika, guess what? Q scores well on some subtests for working memory. Deep testing on that one area shows more deficits. (and indeed he sometimes has crazy good working memory and he has had direct therapy to work on this...., other times he will stop and say, it's to much, you know i can't remember , lol)</p><p></p><p>All memory depends on many factors. If a child is having attention problems you can imagine scores going lower. If they are having a really good (one on one, no distractions etc?) attention day or for that time anyway.....well? </p><p></p><p>Just like there are different kinds of attention, I think in real life, there are different "types" (that is not a good word for it) of short term and working memory. Not to mention all the things that affect all types of memory.</p><p></p><p>Sort memory sub tests are to me, not all that valid (not testing the skill that we are concerned about in real life). Just mho. There are more specific memory tests that obviously are better.</p><p></p><p>I've given standardized memory tests to kids....using chips, games, unrelated words....and I always wondered of they really showed the big picture. Memory clinics and programs I'm sure have much better tools.</p><p></p><p>As a stand alone task, he may be able to do well. But if hungry, distracted, if the information is brand new versus familiar, or is able to be related to prior information, if it is language based, visually based, etc......all those factors can affect real life working memory (and all memory).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, just a long way of saying he may have good skills for the kind of task he was tested on (which is a subtest of a bigger test, not a dedicated memory assessment, right?)....</p><p></p><p>Or not.....but just a thought.</p><p></p><p>As for the other information, really interesting and very cool that it really validates what you are and have been saying for a long time!</p><p></p><p>Yay!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 592096, member: 12886"] Malika, guess what? Q scores well on some subtests for working memory. Deep testing on that one area shows more deficits. (and indeed he sometimes has crazy good working memory and he has had direct therapy to work on this...., other times he will stop and say, it's to much, you know i can't remember , lol) All memory depends on many factors. If a child is having attention problems you can imagine scores going lower. If they are having a really good (one on one, no distractions etc?) attention day or for that time anyway.....well? Just like there are different kinds of attention, I think in real life, there are different "types" (that is not a good word for it) of short term and working memory. Not to mention all the things that affect all types of memory. Sort memory sub tests are to me, not all that valid (not testing the skill that we are concerned about in real life). Just mho. There are more specific memory tests that obviously are better. I've given standardized memory tests to kids....using chips, games, unrelated words....and I always wondered of they really showed the big picture. Memory clinics and programs I'm sure have much better tools. As a stand alone task, he may be able to do well. But if hungry, distracted, if the information is brand new versus familiar, or is able to be related to prior information, if it is language based, visually based, etc......all those factors can affect real life working memory (and all memory). Anyway, just a long way of saying he may have good skills for the kind of task he was tested on (which is a subtest of a bigger test, not a dedicated memory assessment, right?).... Or not.....but just a thought. As for the other information, really interesting and very cool that it really validates what you are and have been saying for a long time! Yay! [/QUOTE]
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