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<blockquote data-quote="Percy" data-source="post: 706197" data-attributes="member: 21263"><p>Counsellors son has seen say no mental health issues, no mental health diagnoses - just oppositional defiant disorder. I agree that there well could be something going on, but so far we have no insight or clarity into what. I don't know about harder drugs - I couldn't rule it out, but I have no reason or evidence to think he is. Nothing I have ever found when I searched his room was indicative of any other drugs. He does drink alcohol though.</p><p></p><p> He is very smart and very academically capable, but decided to stop going to high school last spring at end of junior year. Started cutting classes, leaving school (it is not open campus, so this was not ok) staying out all night on some nights. He started having issues with authority at school last spring, becoming oppositional and defiant there too, but not disruptive, (from age 15 it was just with family, from 16 it started to spill over into other areas.) He was fired from one job for smoking pot in basement at job. He works in restaurant now, where I think lots of the employees smoke a lot of weed. It seems sort of endemic to that industry, and isn't a very wholesome environment. He never really went back to school for senior year, and finally dropped out first week of October. He got his GED a few weeks later. (GED with high honors -- I seriously didn't even know there was such a thing.) But when he has taken PSAT, SAT etc. He scores in the 99th centile. It is ironic that we are still getting mailers from ivy league schools based on his test results, but he dropped out of high school.</p><p></p><p>He was previously drug tested by us, urine tests, until he started faking them, and nothing other than weed showed up. He faked them for us (we were naïve). He also faked some or all during his previous period of probation, last spring. He had one drug test 3 months ago as part of new period of probation (marijuana possession, and then shoplifting incidents, all handled in juvenile court/juvenile probation), that was likely real/his urine -- it showed high levels of marijuana, but nothing else.</p><p></p><p>I think he uses weed every day. Maybe more than once per day. He could be self medicating, but I don't know; I think it is pretty clear I have no insight into what is going on in his head right now. I have almost no knowledge of where he is, what he does, who he hangs with. I have many times in the past asked why he smokes pot and he says he likes it, it's not a big deal, it is better for you than alcohol, it is harmless, it is a plant, it is natural, it makes him feel good, once he said it helps him sleep.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Percy, post: 706197, member: 21263"] Counsellors son has seen say no mental health issues, no mental health diagnoses - just oppositional defiant disorder. I agree that there well could be something going on, but so far we have no insight or clarity into what. I don't know about harder drugs - I couldn't rule it out, but I have no reason or evidence to think he is. Nothing I have ever found when I searched his room was indicative of any other drugs. He does drink alcohol though. He is very smart and very academically capable, but decided to stop going to high school last spring at end of junior year. Started cutting classes, leaving school (it is not open campus, so this was not ok) staying out all night on some nights. He started having issues with authority at school last spring, becoming oppositional and defiant there too, but not disruptive, (from age 15 it was just with family, from 16 it started to spill over into other areas.) He was fired from one job for smoking pot in basement at job. He works in restaurant now, where I think lots of the employees smoke a lot of weed. It seems sort of endemic to that industry, and isn't a very wholesome environment. He never really went back to school for senior year, and finally dropped out first week of October. He got his GED a few weeks later. (GED with high honors -- I seriously didn't even know there was such a thing.) But when he has taken PSAT, SAT etc. He scores in the 99th centile. It is ironic that we are still getting mailers from ivy league schools based on his test results, but he dropped out of high school. He was previously drug tested by us, urine tests, until he started faking them, and nothing other than weed showed up. He faked them for us (we were naïve). He also faked some or all during his previous period of probation, last spring. He had one drug test 3 months ago as part of new period of probation (marijuana possession, and then shoplifting incidents, all handled in juvenile court/juvenile probation), that was likely real/his urine -- it showed high levels of marijuana, but nothing else. I think he uses weed every day. Maybe more than once per day. He could be self medicating, but I don't know; I think it is pretty clear I have no insight into what is going on in his head right now. I have almost no knowledge of where he is, what he does, who he hangs with. I have many times in the past asked why he smokes pot and he says he likes it, it's not a big deal, it is better for you than alcohol, it is harmless, it is a plant, it is natural, it makes him feel good, once he said it helps him sleep. [/QUOTE]
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