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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 751364" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>This is a possibility (or probability) but by no means a certainty. (There is a woman who posts here whose son is Paranoid Schizophrenic. He has been living on the street in his car 4 years or more. She is able to monitor him through his bank account. So far, no jail or prison.)</p><p></p><p>Josh is mentally ill. Extended treatment, a secure place to live, and productive work, could would help him. The important thing now is that he come in contact with resources that can help stabilize him. Jail and prison offer this. But a professional intervention too could get him there. </p><p></p><p>There are resources in the community, too. Josh is thinking like a crazed animal in the wild. Now he sees the trap closing in on him. This does not make him "bad." He has the potential to be dangerous now, yes.</p><p></p><p>When they are so young, in particular, I don't think we are helped by writing off our kids, even in the short term. It was tempting for me. But when I tried to I vacillated and ended up in even greater pain. We don't have to do that, in order to control our own behavior. There are more than two speeds. Not only enmeshment and rejection. We can recognize that there is nothing that we can do right now to help and support them directly. But that does not mean that they cannot be helped by others, by treatment, by time. It's just that Josh cannot feel or understand your help right now, because he is not in a frame of mind to understand. He may never be. But this could change, too. Just not by your efforts and sacrifice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 751364, member: 18958"] This is a possibility (or probability) but by no means a certainty. (There is a woman who posts here whose son is Paranoid Schizophrenic. He has been living on the street in his car 4 years or more. She is able to monitor him through his bank account. So far, no jail or prison.) Josh is mentally ill. Extended treatment, a secure place to live, and productive work, could would help him. The important thing now is that he come in contact with resources that can help stabilize him. Jail and prison offer this. But a professional intervention too could get him there. There are resources in the community, too. Josh is thinking like a crazed animal in the wild. Now he sees the trap closing in on him. This does not make him "bad." He has the potential to be dangerous now, yes. When they are so young, in particular, I don't think we are helped by writing off our kids, even in the short term. It was tempting for me. But when I tried to I vacillated and ended up in even greater pain. We don't have to do that, in order to control our own behavior. There are more than two speeds. Not only enmeshment and rejection. We can recognize that there is nothing that we can do right now to help and support them directly. But that does not mean that they cannot be helped by others, by treatment, by time. It's just that Josh cannot feel or understand your help right now, because he is not in a frame of mind to understand. He may never be. But this could change, too. Just not by your efforts and sacrifice. [/QUOTE]
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