Yeah, I believe she really believed it or believes it. The sad reality is, however, that it just doesn't make any difference what she thinks. I don't harbor ill will. I'm just detached. The less I know about what's going on in her life the less stress I have in mine. I have had to realize that our difficult child#2 has lost all the opportunities that I worked so hard to gain for him. That's the painful part. To the best of my knowledge he no longer has any realistic goals, no longer takes the Rx's that allowed him to function at his best, has no structure for his life and he is not capable of achieving anything with-o those supports. Sigh. She just doesn't get it. DDD