Hi SVD, I have never been able to say "this is my line in the sand and if they cross it, that's it." Like most of us here, I could write a novel. There had been a lot of challenging behaviors, for years. We did the best we could but it slowly was eating me away. I was always anxious and waiting for the other shoe to fall. Regarding my daughter, at age 29, she decided to find her birth mother...I understood and gave her my blessings. (Long story) After she went to her birth mother's house, she did not bother to contact me for 16 months. This gets very long and involved so I won't get into everything. Birth parents were going to meet with my oldest son, her brother as well. Daughter told horrible lies about my son so the whole meeting never happened. She was kicked out of her birth mother's house and continued her life with substance, assault. That was her pattern when she lived near me. Assault was always part of her history from early childhood on. She skipped out on probation and was arrested and sentenced to prison. We have not had contact. With my son, at age 36, he became exceptionally verbally rude again. (A series of events) He and his wife excluded me and his brothers from their lives. The last spoken words I heard from him were "

off, Mom". Even though he has a child with current his wife, he decided to disregard my grand daughter, his first born. Stopped seeing her, contacting her and paying child support. I had backed away after he told me to "F off" but what has he has done to my grand was the icing on the cake for me. I live a very calm, joyful and successful life. My husband is wonderful as are my two younger sons. I have a full life with family and friends. I cannot take the disrespect, insane life styles and choices my 2 older ones make. My mantra is "I don't want it, don't need it and most of all don't deserve it." I actually said that to my son. I have "Let Go" (although I occasionally fall into what if). Guess what though? Being unengaged is doable and it is so much more peaceful. I have decided how I want to live and let them live with their choices. We don't need to blend the two. If you've made it this far reading, thanks for listening. Best of luck on your journey with regaining "you".