Hand signs mean what?

Discussion in 'Parent Emeritus' started by Star*, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. Big Bad Kitty

    Big Bad Kitty lolcat

    You guys.


    Look at the hand sign again.

    It is exactly what you think it is. And it is as disgusting as the pictures you are seeing sent to dude's myspace.

    Either close out his account, or tell him he has to accept Auntie Bad Kitty as a friend.


    Heh heh.
     
  2. wakeupcall

    wakeupcall Well-Known Member

    My difficult child is 12 and has no idea what "My Space" is yet. I learn SO much here it's unbelievabable! 'Re-enforces why I belong to this Board.

    Besides that......I get a laugh once in awhile!
     
  3. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    Ok BBK - THAT is what I was trying NOT to think - but with my kid.

    Well - we sat down last night in a family meeting I called - and gave him a chance to come clean about the pictures, the IM's to girls touting me as a bloody leach, the messages about my house, my dog, and the fact that he's breaking house rules set up just 3 weeks ago. AGAIN.

    He played the stupid card, which is actually not a bad card to play with DF and I. Because DF said - "Well if you have no more clue; than what you do, about how that website operates, then you're apparently not old enough to be on it. So now you are off the computer."

    We wanted him to recant - we wanted him to admit he lied, we wanted him to get up and go clean the room we're allowing him to stay in. And he was doing laundry - one pair of jeans at a time. DF flipped and that was pretty much the end of peaceful trails. We just paid $275 to have the septic emptied and now Dude is washing 2 tshirts and a tank top on a full load - and one pair of jeans = it's like WTH is your problem? He knows how to do laundry. ARGH. This DF said was only done to peeve us off - I just dont' know - I think Dudes cognitive functioning is on again off again - NO ONE can continually STRIVE to peeve people off like this - There is really something wrong with his thinking. We just don't know what.

    He left the family meeting and I finally told DF about the IM to a woman who said she didn't appreciate me leaching off him in his house and that he needs to tell me to get my own car etc. DF said the same thing Meow did - that we can sit there while he IM's each person and tells them the truth about his life, his mother, and then sign off for good. Either that or MUMMY can do it for him - so we'll have that talk tonight. This morning when I got up for work and difficult child was still in bed - he was overwhelmed with wanting to go in and say "Hey your leachy Mom needs a ride to work are you going to take her or am I?" I shoved my banana at him and said THAT was not funny - you know I'd rather have you take my leachy self to work - I already ask TOO TOO much of our son."

    Oh and funnier yet - Since he (until last night) was not on Private status (thanks Sue C) I saw where some men looking for men sent him friend requests - and he's blocked them but THOSE were worse than the women. Yes Dude, there are perverts on MS. Why can't someone invent an IM for kids that has all the language blocked out and pictures have to be approved before going on the web?

    So now thanks to all of your information and suggestions - I took my family pictures off, dog pictures off, made it private so no one else could contact him, blocked any more people from sending thing.

    I'm so over My Space -

    Thanks everyone so much - and while I'm sad that this is going on in our home - I'm thankful that anyone can learn something from it. Like - BLOCK MS right now - argh. :pouting:
     
  4. witzend

    witzend Well-Known Member

    Sounds as though things are going downhill, Star.
     
  5. witzend

    witzend Well-Known Member

    Whatever it looks like, it's actually someething quite politically correct and caring. We can't just read things into this stuff, it can alienate us from our kids when we get it all wrong and make something bad out of something good.

    West also has spoken out about the illicit trade in diamonds. West originally wrote Diamonds are Forever to commemorate the rebirth of the Roc-a-Fella dynasty (which is symbolized by the diamond-shaped hand sign). However, after he heard about the death and destruction caused by the conflict over diamonds in Sierra Leone, Africa, he said that he saw a different meaning in the song. He said he felt that God was using him to relay a message about the issue “conflict diamonds.” Conflict diamonds are diamonds that originate from areas controlled by forces opposed to legitimate and internationally recognized African governments. The money made from these diamonds is used to purchase weapons and support opposition forces. As a result of this conflict, families get separated, children are forced to serve as soldiers and thousands lose their lives.

    When West learned of this problem, he wanted to help promote awareness. He wants people to realize that when you purchase diamonds, you don’t really know where your diamond came from. There is a chance that a small child paid the price so you can look glamorous. This rap song gives a bit of information about the diamond war in Sierra Leone. It is touching, yet its message is deep. While we might all love to wear five karats, those karats might have found their way to you because of the strife and conflict going on in South America. Any diamond purchase could support the existence of this conflict.


    There is information about the good works of other artists you might not think of as doing good works at this site.



    http://www.bsu.edu/learningfromhate/mu_west.htm
     
  6. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    Well I learned something today - Thanks Witz -

    I still don't like the degrading words used in the songs - but I get the meanings.

    I like Tupac, (some of it) if you listen past some of the interjected adjectives or nouns - his stories are very intricate. And I like Young Jeezy - but he's just foul. I tried to find the music without the words for Dude when he was younger - but once you hear the words - it's in your head. The kids swear they like the beats - and not the words. I dunno.

    But thanks for the site - it's neat.
     
  7. Big Bad Kitty

    Big Bad Kitty lolcat

    To set the record straight, I was not accusing any rap star (or any celebrity for that matter) of being uncaring. Maybe his hand sign supports a wonderful cause; I don't know and I have never payed any attention to it. If it does, good for him.

    Years before Kanye West, stupid teenage boys made that hand sign. And it referred to women in the most degrading way possible. That's all I was saying.
     
  8. witzend

    witzend Well-Known Member

    That could very well be, Kitty. I'm totally out of the loop and have been for a long time.

    As a general rule, I find a lot of the rap to be disgusting, but some of what I hear is quite amusing, too. A lot of our songs when we were growing up probably shocked the bejeezus out of our moms, too.

    "Holly came from Miami, FLA
    Hitchhiked her way across the USA..."

    Still love that song.
     
  9. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    do do do do do do doot do doooo
    doot do doot do doot do doot do dooo

    Hey Babe Take a Walk on the Wild Side
    I said HEY Sugar take a walk on the wild side

    Great now song is stuck inmy doot do doot head
     
  10. Abbey

    Abbey Spork Queen

    First of all...hand signs? Get a life. How about using your voice. I think they change day by day.

    My space? I would avoid it at all costs. I don't believe it automatically downloads pictures. Hmmm...

    Funny thing is we have 5 computers in our house. I installed a virus protection thing that lets me log every site anyone has visited. As smart as husband and easy child are, they've never figured out I can go back and look. It's amazing what you find.:furious: When I 'casually' say something about a site visited, they both look at me like...how in the heck does she know???

    Abbey
     
  11. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    OH ABBEY - THAT JUST MADE ME SMILE -

    YOU GO GENIUS GIRL!!!!!

    And PM me with the info. lol
     
  12. totoro

    totoro Mom? What's a GFG?

    I just read this thread and I have learned a lot... First of all I need to get some porno On my, myspace page... The fact that I have a myspace page still baffles me... I mainly did it for my 15yo neice... who has no pole-dancing photos!!!
    and I need to get Cory and Dude to join my page!!!
    Tell them I have photos of a very cute 3 yo in a Pull-up!!!
    I think I have the Wall Mart hand sign down!!!
    Thanks Star!!! husband was very impressed!!!

    Yeah, I am not looking forward to the teen years... K and N are happy looking at Sesame Street online...
     
  13. DammitJanet

    DammitJanet Well-Known Member

    LOL totoro...I have a myspace too that I use to pass photos back and forth with Jamie. I also talk once in a blue moon with Jamies best friends wife on myspace messenger. I still find it kinda sweet that this young twenties girl wants to chat...lol. Her little boy is 13 days younger than Keyana. Trust me, no pics have ever been automatically downloaded...lol.

    Now saying that...Cory used to chat on yahoo I think and girls would send him stupid pics of themselves that he did have to hit the download button. I stopped that by disabling that feature. Easy way to get viruses.
     
  14. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    The away message: ( a thought)

    Dear: WHOMEVER

    Thank you for sending the pictures that you did through MS.

    It seems you are lacking in self-esteem and have no morals. At this time we are sending back your photos. We passed them around to several inmates and no one was even slightly interested in what you were offering.

    We're sorry if this has caused any more confusion in your already degraded mind, but when an inmate doesn't even want a look - well perhaps you should keep your pants on, find a nice man, and get some religion in your life.

    Sincerely -

    The entire D block of Sing Sing prison
    NY, NY 10034
     
  15. Big Bad Kitty

    Big Bad Kitty lolcat

    That will probably stop the pictures, that will...
     
  16. Star*

    Star* call 911........call 911

    ORLY - lol
     
  17. Big Bad Kitty

    Big Bad Kitty lolcat

    Ya Rly...

    XD