For those watching the Casey A. trial.....

[DammitJanet]

That link I put up has the possible outcomes to this trial. Just in case ya wanna know. I think we are getting close to the end. Jesse Grund is getting ready to come up. He has been called to the courthouse. Again. Did you all notice how Lee contradicted his parents this morning? Hmmm.

I swear I cant get anything done because I am doing nothing but watching this trial either on tv, on the computer or reading forums about it! I have got to leave the house!

 

[Nancy]

I understand klmno and my response was made very quickly from my phone so it may have sounded weird. And it may be in Florida law that her demanding to take stand even though defense is telling her it is mistake may be reason to think she is not understanding or able to help in her own defense. It normally would not be enough to question her competency because she has a legal right to testify. I seem to think it's more than this but perhaps that's all it is. Most laywers have enough control over their clients to convince them not to testify so if that's it, just the mere fact that she is demanding to do so does show she is unable to assist in her own defense I guess. I sure wish we could find out what the real issue was.

Nancy

 

[1905]

I missed something, Cronk started out strong, but was he caught in a lie? I heard him say he didn't go near the skull, then he said he poked his stick in it. If that happened, I'm thinking she'll be found not-guilty. I can't tear myself away either. (My family keps bothering me with their requests for food!)

 

[klmno]

Nancy, they put it across (commentators) like Casey could be a loose cannon on the stand, possibly. It's not just taking the stand and being subject to cross, it was the possibility that she wouldn't hush when she should when being questioned by her own attnys, too. Basicly, suicide by testimony althought not even intending to commit suicide. This was all speculation though. But I found it a valid theory given what we've all seen and heard from Casey.

 

[DammitJanet]

upallnight...if u want to keep up with everything and still want to be able to do other things, go to this site

You dont have to join or anything just to read and keep up with everything that is posted. I havent joined, I just read. Everything is linked there.

 

[klmno]

Well, if they were going to go after a meter reader, why on earth didn't they go after the one who told Kronk "he bets the little girl's remains are in those woods" then "I told you they were in there"? Not that this guy did it, but he would have been an easier target than Kronk.

 

[1905]

Thank you Janet!

 

[Nancy]

I agree with you klmno, both on the loose cannon and the fact that they didn't go after the other meter reader for saying he "knew" she was there.

Nancy

P.S. I need this to be over soon too upallnight. I haven't been grocery shopping and my laundry is piling up and my dog really wants her walks.

 

[klmno]

P.S. I need this to be over soon too upallnight. I haven't been grocery shopping and my laundry is piling up and my dog really wants her walks.

LOL!

Did hear wrong or did Casey have some sort of emotional outburst this morning during testimony?

 

[Nancy]

I believe they are referring to the outburst she had the other day. If you are watching on the computer on wftv.com they gave the link. She got very angry at something and looked animal-like in her facial expressions and she yelled at someone. I think she was angry at something Linda Burdick said during testimony. If I can find the link I will post it. Supposedly the jury was in the room at the time, not sure though.

Nancy

 

[klmno]

Wow! I hadn't heard about that. I did see them showing still shots of her looking angry and saying the jury saw that and they should have shed some light on Casey's "other side".

Oh- this witness just put on- I wonder if the prosecution can get from him the story about the previous inmate who had a daughter that drowned.

 

[DammitJanet]

Oh good lord....they are going to let a grief expert on. What has this trial led to? Judge says that since they didnt ask the jury specifically if they had ever had any experience with grief they have to do this. Huh? I am betting if they are over 18, someone in their lives has died.

 

[klmno]

I'm not too worried about that one. I interpreted what the judge said to mean he was going to proffer her, too, though but wasn't quite certain about it. If he let on the 2 people from the jail, the ex-boyfriend, and a grief counselor, the most they could convince the jury of, IMVHO, is that Casey lives in her own little "happy" world, had a bro that tried to grope her, and doesn't express grief like most people. Does any of that at all disprove the state's case? In my mind, no. And if she told someone that Lee tried to do that, why didn't she ever tell anyone ITRW that George had been raping her as a young child?

Krunk might not be the best role model in the world, but they sure didn't prove that he is morally bankrupt as they claimed in their opening argument. Although the defense doesn't have to prove things, their credibility must be in question with the jury at some point since they said a lot of things that so far aren't adding up to too much and the state's rebuttal (or whatever it's called) is yet to happen. I wonder what will happen if/when Ashton puts Lee on the stand and asks if it's true that he tried to grope Casey- but in all honestly, WTH does that have to do with Caylee being dead?

My half-bro tried to do worse than that to me but my son is alive.

 

[DammitJanet]

What in the H was up with the defense wanting to attempt to bring in the guard from the PRISON to show that Casey is a happy model prisoner????? Ummm...yeah? So? That means what? She cant be a murderer? Has Baez ever met Bundy?

 

[klmno]

I know. I think he's paving the way for an appeal- I think he wanted to prove that she doesn't act like most people in circumstances like that, but like I added (by editing) my last post, what difference does that make if she was found mentally competent to stand trial and they didn't go for the insanity defense. The only way I can see the defense's theory having a chance of working was if they had claimed insanity and previous abuse and a dysfunctional family of liars led to that insanity. I would have probably bought that after hearing all this koi. It's not the defense attnys I blame for that though, I'd say Casey wouldn't allow that approach. The attnys know she's living in la-la land by this point because she is making decisions like that and apparently not taking things serious enough and still thinking the lies will get her off. I think that's why the attnys are filing for incompetency and trying to make this obvious to the court and already using it to pave the way for an appeal.

I'm with you on this DJ, if it was an man who wasn't related to the family that was on trial, he could have been abbused 4 times as bad as a child (even if that's true abouit Casey), act half-nuts, and been raised by 20 foster families and he would still be found guilty.

 

[Nancy]

OK ladies I am going to miss tomorrow morning's testimony because it is difficult child's first day where she is allowed to look for a job 9-12 and I have to pick her up and take her places. So please leave me nice little recaps that I can catch up on when I get back. I'll dvd it but probably won't watch it because I'll want to watch the afternoon's. Also I can log in here with my phone and at least get an idea of what I'm missing.

Thanks,
Nancy

 

[klmno]

I'll be at work- but congrats on your daughter doing so well and good luck tomorrow, Nancy!

 

[Nancy]

Thanks klmno, but what do you mean you will be at work? Doesn't your employer know this is more important?

I'm not sure what I think about those correction officers and what the defense wanted to show, that she doesn't act sad even though her daughter is dead so that explains her behavior in court? I wonder what Lee and the Anthony's think now. If that is true do you think that's why he was always kept in the dark about everything? I don't know what to believe with this family.

Nancy

 

[donna723]

I'm leery of all of them but I think I found Lee more believable than either of the parents, considering the things they've come out with in the last few days!

 

[klmno]

Thanks klmno, but what do you mean you will be at work? Doesn't your employer know this is more important?

LOL! I'm having to spend a lot of time walking thru a hospital with clinics in it lately so I'm able to catch glimpses on tvs in waiting rooms occasionally. Most all the tvs over there are tuned to this case.

I never doubted that there's a possiblity Lee tried to grope his sis- the statistics on how common this is are astounding. Although it happens occassionally, it's a lot less common for a bio-parent to sexually abuse their kid.

No, I don't think that was why Lee was excluded by his parents. It could be why Casey would exclude him but I'm not sure she excluded him throughout the whole time- didn't she allow Lee to be alone with Caylee at times when Caylee was a little older than an infant? I don't know. But, parents typically either would have kicked him out of the house, if not had him arrested, or they didn't know so that wouldn't be a reason for excluding him, or they were in denial about it and again, wouldn't exclude him if they refused to believe it. So that doesn't add up to me. They are a very dysfunctional family but you know, there are a whole lot of them out there.