For those watching the Casey A. trial.....
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klmno he said her asking or demanding to take the stand would not be cause for him to question her competency. It was something that either she said to him or questions that he asked her that caused him to question whether she even knew what was going on in the case, her inability to answer a question or understand what was being said to her.
Nancy
Nancy
He almost made it sound like it would have to be something that made you think she had a breakdown of some sort or deteriorated in some way. I didn't see any signs of that from her demeanor in the courtroom but then I don't know how she acts around them.
Casey has a right to testify. In fact if she does not testify the judge will ask her if that is her decision not to.
Nancy
Casey has a right to testify. In fact if she does not testify the judge will ask her if that is her decision not to.
Nancy
H
HaoZi
Guest
I wonder if she started claiming that Caylee will be found alive and come back to her or something. Or that she was abducted by aliens.
Marcie Mac
Just Plain Ole Tired
If you compare her demenor on Saturday to this morning, she went from crying and upset to almost giddy today - smiling, batting eyes, chucking, laughing (well, at least until the jury came in).
I think that evaluation was a last ditch effort by her attorneys to try to stop her from testifying which I think she is going to insist she does. And I will have a hard time NOT laughing when she raises her right hand and says "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth"
Marcie
I think that evaluation was a last ditch effort by her attorneys to try to stop her from testifying which I think she is going to insist she does. And I will have a hard time NOT laughing when she raises her right hand and says "I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth"
Marcie
DammitJanet
Well-Known Member
I have it opened in another tab and it wont let me copy/paste because it is a pdf file but it basically says that they want to test her to make sure she is rational enough to discuss the case and charges with her lawyers factually which I take as in a truthful manner. It goes on to say that she needs to be able to advise her lawyers of any pertinent facts relevant to the case and testify relevantly. I am gonna guess that means truthfully?
I believe Casey was giddy as a colt in clover when she was declared competent because she didnt want to be incompetent.
I believe Casey was giddy as a colt in clover when she was declared competent because she didnt want to be incompetent.
donna723
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I thought they might have dosed her up on something today! Her demeanor today was completely different than it has been. Were George and Cindy in the court room today? Usually the cameras cut over to them once in a while but if they did it today I didn't see it.
The commentators were saying that she must have said something strange to one of her legal team or done something that made one of them request the psychiatric exams for her. I'm am no Nancy Grace fan by any means but she was going on the assumption that Casey herself had requested it as a delaying tactic and on the hopes that if she was found "incompetent", it would put a stop to the trial, at least for a while. I think it was just a tactic by her legal team, just like the constant objections, all the delays, asking for a mistrial, and now trying to get her ruled "incompetent" right in the middle of the trial.
The commentators were saying that she must have said something strange to one of her legal team or done something that made one of them request the psychiatric exams for her. I'm am no Nancy Grace fan by any means but she was going on the assumption that Casey herself had requested it as a delaying tactic and on the hopes that if she was found "incompetent", it would put a stop to the trial, at least for a while. I think it was just a tactic by her legal team, just like the constant objections, all the delays, asking for a mistrial, and now trying to get her ruled "incompetent" right in the middle of the trial.
DammitJanet
Well-Known Member
I think she keeps wanting to tell the DT how to run things and she wants to keep changing the game plans IE: she may have been upset over Lee on Friday so she decided to back off on the Lee molestation charge on Friday, hence the fact that Mason went ballistic. Also I sort of think she really think she wants her day in court so she doesnt want them to say she cant which they dont want her to do it anymore because they dont believe her anymore which is why they arent asking anyone about the molestation or even really the drowning.
klmno
Active Member
Along the same line of thinking here- one commentator speculated that she changed her story again and is telling her attnys that she wants to get on the stand and tell her newest version of what really happened. I can see that happening and that would make her attnys want to throw their arms up in the air and say she can't even help her own defense.
klmno she is allowedto testify, it is her right. They can't claim she is incompetent because she wants to testify.
Janet the death penalty case going on here that we talked about, they brought the jurors through the house yesterday. They had to wear marks over their mouths and noses because the stench is so bad, two years later. The neighbors say they still smell it in the air. They are going to tear the house down after the trial. So when they say human decomposition is a smell you never forget and that lingers for years, they are correct.
Nancy
Janet the death penalty case going on here that we talked about, they brought the jurors through the house yesterday. They had to wear marks over their mouths and noses because the stench is so bad, two years later. The neighbors say they still smell it in the air. They are going to tear the house down after the trial. So when they say human decomposition is a smell you never forget and that lingers for years, they are correct.
Nancy
timer lady
Queen of Hearts
I've been watching this case sporadically ~ don't want to become addicted & lose the amount of time in this drama/crime stuff.
Saying that, the bits of time I've watched concerns me that this has become a circus. Too many people seem to want their 15 minutes of fame using that poor little baby. Baez seems to be at the top of that list.
It's a sad thing when a child dies ~ more traumatic when the mother is the cause of death.
Saying that, the bits of time I've watched concerns me that this has become a circus. Too many people seem to want their 15 minutes of fame using that poor little baby. Baez seems to be at the top of that list.
It's a sad thing when a child dies ~ more traumatic when the mother is the cause of death.
DammitJanet
Well-Known Member
Arghhhh...Now I think George has fallen on the sword by admitting or even faking admitting the affair with this woman River Cruz. Well...he didnt admit it, but he didnt admit it with some really strange body language. Batting the eyes, holding back, asking for the questions to be asked again like he was caught up thinking about her...sheesh.
Now Kronk and he doesnt appear he can tell the truth if it bit him in the butt. Why oh why cant people just tell the truth? Seriously, it doesnt sound so bad to tell someone that you might think that you would get the reward for Caylee if you found her. Dont deny it now. I would have probably thought it too. Its not that big of a deal.
Now Kronk and he doesnt appear he can tell the truth if it bit him in the butt. Why oh why cant people just tell the truth? Seriously, it doesnt sound so bad to tell someone that you might think that you would get the reward for Caylee if you found her. Dont deny it now. I would have probably thought it too. Its not that big of a deal.
I find Kronk very credible, a hard working blue collared guy who pees in the woods and plays with dead snakes. Rewards are offered so that people will keep their eyes open and call in any tips they have, and then when they do we criticize them. I don't think the defense is going to shake Kronk and I think the jury is going to believe him. I guess they are going to ignore the whole thing about Kronk keeping hte body and hiding it himself. I'm waiting for the proof that he is morally bankrupt. Just another person thrown under the bus.
Nancy
Nancy
DammitJanet
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I think the whole thing about him peeing in the woods and calling in what he thinks he saw are right on, the problem comes when he tries to bumble his way around the whole...well, I guess I might have heard there was some type of reward but I dont remember if I ever told anyone I thought I might get it...stuff. Now he thinks (and rightfully so because for the last three years everyone has said he is morally bankrupt and greedy) that he cant say that he thought he would get the reward.
I am pretty darned sure I would have thought I would get the reward myself so I would have probably told people too that I was gonna have money soon. People say things like that. Its natural for people who have very little money to do that. If you see a poster saying there is a reward for over a 100K it makes an impact in your mind!
I am pretty darned sure I would have thought I would get the reward myself so I would have probably told people too that I was gonna have money soon. People say things like that. Its natural for people who have very little money to do that. If you see a poster saying there is a reward for over a 100K it makes an impact in your mind!
DammitJanet
Well-Known Member
Well learned one thing today....dont tape the law in florida!
klmno
Active Member
Nancy, I didn't mean to insinuate that Casey couldn't take the stand. The commentator disccussing the competency hearing made a good point though, whether or not this was actually the issue Casey's defense team have. If they are recommending to her that she not take the stand, even though she has a legal right to, and they know she's wanting to say something that will probably get her the death penalty, according to the commentator this would be reason for a defense attny to believe that she can't help in her own defense. Maybe that's not a valid reason to request a competency hearing IAW Fl law- I have no idea.
Did anything big come from more family testimony this morning? Did they interview the woman who had an "affair" with George? I heard her being interviewed (only part of it) and at one point they said she stated she and George got very close but didn't do anything sexual, then in her interview later she said they most definitely "had an intimater relationship". George is supposedly the one who ended it. I wonder if it was an emotional thing but not sexual and she started getting too serious and wanting more than George- I don't know- does anyone here?
Did anything big come from more family testimony this morning? Did they interview the woman who had an "affair" with George? I heard her being interviewed (only part of it) and at one point they said she stated she and George got very close but didn't do anything sexual, then in her interview later she said they most definitely "had an intimater relationship". George is supposedly the one who ended it. I wonder if it was an emotional thing but not sexual and she started getting too serious and wanting more than George- I don't know- does anyone here?
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