Feeling Sad---Son is Homeless

New Leaf

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I have a soft long sleeved peasant blouse, does that count as a tunic? I shall have to wait to wear it, for the weather to cool. It is chilly in the morning, but steamy, "Street Car Named Desire" hot in the afternoon. STELLLLLLLLLAAAA! (Sorry younger audience, you shall have to look that one up) Then there are the darned hot flashes. One hot Mama here.

I digress, my peasant blouse and patchouli oil shall have to suffice for now.

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Another day warrior sisters.

Terry welcome to the troop.

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Scent of Cedar *

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Feeling, I was not able to respond to your post about the lights going out.

I thought about you so often that day.

Do you have pepper spray, or maybe, if you can do it, a Taser? A Taser would be best, but I don't know whether we can have those if we are private citizens. It would be a good idea to check I think, Feeling. I think you would not be able to do anything to harm your son, even if he were coming right at you. But a Taser would work.

You could do that, Feeling.

Another thing I have heard is to carry your car keys and hit the remote alarm button to make your horn start honking to attract attention and possibly, scare off the intruder.

Carry your keys. There must be some way to prepare for the power going out. Some kind of hooded light so you cannot be so easily seen.

Not a very bright light, just enough.

I haven't been able to come up with anything other than covering the flashlight with dark cloth and just slipping it off enough, momentarily, to see.

But you need to think of something, Feeling.

Preparation is key. Then, you will be able to think.

And not to go "tharn".

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And what about a way to know the outside doors had not been opened? Like, a piece of crepe paper ribbon you could tape to the door jamb and the door.
All you would need to do would be to look at the unbroken ribbon to know you were still alone in the house.

I am trying to think of other things, too.

The only possible response has to be that you know in your bones you can protect yourself. It is not good to take a chance on blind belief. You must value yourself enough to protect yourself without harming your son. (I know, for instance, that you will not use a gun where your son is concerned. Pepper spray...maybe. Taser, in the certain face of an attack from an adult child who is not thinking right....

Yes.

I think you could do that.

I was so disturbed by the fear in your post, Feeling. You do have power, here. It is a horrible situation, but Feeling...it is what it is.

There is a phrase: Radical Acceptance.

Just to say it helped me to accept what I could not accept.

Radical Acceptance.

So, I think crepe paper ribbon to tie across the doors. Car keys with remote, to key the horn to blare and the lights to flash. And a Taser.

Those three things could help you feel safe.

What other things can you do, Feeling?

We will get through this. I am sorry for the horrible pain of it.

I know that feeling, when time stops.

Cedar
 

Copabanana

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Feeling, Somehow I missed the post about the power going out, and the subsequent posts. I am sorry.

You don't want to get a dog? Remember my list of non-allergenic breeds? Not only would they alert you they would be with you so that you do not have to be afraid.

I do not think your fear is primarily of your son. I do not believe you fear his coming back to hurt you...in the heart of you. I believe like you do that this is an unraveling of a lifetime of fear. It is like the energy of a spring that must be dispelled for the spring to be at rest. That the fear has his name on it is sad and distressing but the fear is your fear which has been stored up...and needs to be dispelled.

Maybe this would help: To take ownership of these feelings. In the same way I need to own my own. Or another metaphor. When you crochet and knit and find a missed stitch or an error....and it must be unraveled. That is the unraveling of feeling that is happening with us. To start again.

COPA
 
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InsaneCdn

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Terry, I would like to extend an invitation to be a fellow warrior. No application process required. You have already been approved. You just have to be a parent of a troubled child and enjoy roaring...
Even if nobody else here even knows just how difficult our difficult child(ren) (and spouses) are?
 

Copabanana

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Feeling, I wanted to tell you guys that the University called (the automatic recording) to confirm my son's appointment on the 28th at the time he said. Now, all he has to do is get there, and hopefully, accept treatment.

I will be on pins and needles because I am afraid like he is. But this must be faced. I will be grateful that he goes to the doctor and accepts and complies with treatment, regardless of what are the findings. I hope I can bear whatever will come.

Let us know how you are doing, Feeling. Please.

COPA
 

Feeling Sad

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Copa, it is both fear of my son and a dose of past fears coming to the surface. But, I would define it as acute alertness that I acquired from my past experiences combined with a present, real fear of my ill son.

I have to be honest here. I, down in my mother's heart, cannot entertain the idea of my ill son ever hurting me. But, I sadly would be in denial.

Every therapist, about 5 after the incident, a psychiatrist, numerous people on the phone from NAMI and the crisis intervention unit, the mental health worker, and the crisis officer ALL told me to get an alarm for safety, some said cameras as well, do not walk alone, stay near people, and do not park far off by myself. They all said that he is capable of following his voices, or command hallucinations, that are ordering him to kill me without even realizing what he was doing.

He is not on medication to 'quiet' his voices and is not receiving coping skills from therapy. The voices threaten him with harm if he does not comply.

His delusions weave a tale in his head why I should be killed. He thought that it was his house and I was threatening to kick him out if he did not see a doctor.

Most of the actual cases of a parent being killed by a schizophrenic adult child, usually envolved the mother while she was trying to get her adult child to see a doctor.

Lastly, the most crucial piece, is that he DID try to kill me that night with the broken jagged bottle being held to my throat. It was an aborted attempt. Whether he was trying it out, or following his voices, or seeing how easily he could surprise me. But, I have been told that it WAS an attempt. I have been wrestling with this idea. I wanted, down to my very core, to believe that it was a joke...a very sick joke. But, it wasn't.


I was told by several therapists that that was not a joke, as he had told me nervously afterwards, and that it was real. I could have died that night.

This realization is what precipitated my waking up screaming.

I feel that he saw my look of terror, or shock, or dismay on my face, and he stopped. It was a split second decision. I keep seeing that stern, hard, strange look on my son's face...and I wake up screaming. I think that I see him in the shadows when my room is dark and I wake up in the middle of the night...screaming.

That night, after he cracked the wine bottle on the counter and held the jagged half out towards me...in that instant, his monster/alien-type of expression changed instantly into, a stilted nervous smile and laughter. He said, "I was only joking. I will clean it up".


He said that he was going to clean it up. This cinched it! In 9 years time of destruction, he had NEVER said that he was going to clean it up. It kept it there always as a trophy of sorts as he ran off to his room, laughing.

This time was different. I will never know why he said that he would clean it up. Did he feel ashamed at what he almost did? Did he want to get rid of any evidence? I will never know.

A day or so later, he was crying...this other-worldly high-pitched man whine while he pleaded with his voices, "Please come back. Don't leave me all alone. Pllleeeaaassse!" He said it several times. I had never heard him make that horrible sound...a pitiful heart-wrenching cry out to his voices. Were his voices threatening to leave because he had failed to follow their orders???

It broke my heart. I wanted to call out to him from the other side of his bedroom wall that he was NOT alone. I was there!

But, I didn't. I knew that to say that would let him know how clearly I could hear him from his room. I thought, I need to not let him know. I had brought up his voices before a few times in the past. He denied them...I was rehearsing...I was practicing my speech...

I knew that if I did not let him know, that I could ascertain how ill he was becoming, and, like when I was little and dealing with my violent schizophrenic sister, it could keep me safe!

The bottle incident happened 3 weeks before he argued with his voices about not wanting to kill me. That night alone was enough for all of the mental health therapists to strongly urge me to get alarms and cameras. Command hallucinations are taken very seriously.

Unmedicated voices are loud, compelling, and unrelenting in their commands. When a paranoid schizophrenic is in the throes of a psychotic episode, they might be capable of murder.

My son had ALL of the qualifiers that would increase the liklihood of compliance: he viewed his voices as friendly, powerful, and familiar. The voices were loud and he had several. He had associated delusions about me and he had command hallucinations ordering him to kill me. He also drinks and is not on medication or receiving therapy. He is male between the ages of 25 and 40. He lives with a single mother, is solely dependent on his mother, and has no outside friendships, activities, hobbies, job, volunteer work, or school.

He had EVERY qualifier. I do reports. I know how to research. I read at least 30 studies...professional studies.

I am not trying to demonize people with schizophrenia. The large majority never harm anyone. Sadly, they have a high rate of being abused by others and of suicide.

I went to sites that had threads on this topic. The posts were written by both parents and schizophrenic patients that were in treatment. The parents all said that if someone had asked them if their son or daughter was capable of hurting or attempting to kill someone, that they would have said..."No". Now, they sadly know that they could say, "Yes". When they were in a psychotic state with command hallucinations they were capable of committing horrible violence.

Patients all said that, at times, they asked their parents to hospitalize them. They said that they loved their mother or father. They did not feel that they could ignore the voices. They were too strong. They did not trust themselves. They did not want to kill their parents. They loved them.

So, I am mainly trying to get myself in a place...a place mentally where I can have those thoughts coexist in my head; my thoughts that he could try to kill me, with my thoughts of worry and concern for him.

Once, I even thought to myself, a horrible thought that I quickly dismissed. In writing it...it seems so very 'sick'. Fear does strange things to your head.

But, for a very fleeting moment, I found a fragment of solace in the thought that my son, because he loves me, would kill me in a way that would not hurt.

Yes, I am very conflicted and rightfully scared.

My experiences from my past saved my life. I went into survival mode that night when I heard him arguing with his voices. It saved my life. All of the therapists said that it was a 'gift', a 'blessing', or that I was very fortunate.

Most people do not have warnings. The parents on that site said if your 'gut' tells you that you are not safe, err on the side of caution. You do not want to regret later on, down the road, that you could have done something before someone was hurt...or worse.

That night with the jagged bottle held to my throat by my paranoid psychotic tall son...it could have gone the other way in the 'blink of an eye'. This is why I wake up screaming.
 

Feeling Sad

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You posted right before me, Copa.

I am so very happy for you! This is great news.

Insane, I am also very glad that you have joined us.

Sassy Leafy, I can just picture you in your peasant blouse...shades of Hippie Leafy. No, I feel that when one is a warrior, a bit of soft, flowing feminine fabric...hey, an alliteration, is a welcome addition to any noble attire.

Cedar...how are you???
 

Copabanana

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I keep seeing that stern, hard, strange look on my son's face...and I wake up screaming. I think that I see him in the shadows when my room is dark and I wake up in the middle of the night...screaming.
Feeling, you are doing so well. You have really come far.

I was trying to remember what I knew to tell you about screaming. I knew something about screaming, that I wanted to share. And then I realized: What I know about screaming is my own screaming, when there are no words for the pain and horror. Like when the sheriff called to tell me about my son's brain injury.

Except Feeling, you have found the words. That is such a good, good thing. You very, very clearly told me the reality of the screaming. With words. I am so proud of you.

I wanted to take away some of the horror for you. And you said: No. I have the words for my horror and my screaming. And you proceeded to tell me. What a long way you have come in these weeks. Now, the next step is some peace. For each of us.

COPA
 

Feeling Sad

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Copa, you always know the perfect things to say.

Yes, I feel that we are getting better. It is very difficult to talk about it and to accept it as being reality. But, you are right. I am standing up for my safety and my youngest son's safety.

I think that that is the first time I mentioned my safety first. That is a step as well. I was always an afterthought...my youngest son would miss me if I was dead, he would feel mad towards his ill brother. My ill son would feel bad about killing me and would have to go to prison.

Always thinking of others. How about me in this scary scenario? I would be dead...

Yes, baby steps for both of us.

Copa, does your son know that you are out and about every day?

I never truly realized how much my other 2 sons worried about my safety and health. They are happy when I take walks and eat right. They do not have to worry as much about me. Now, with the alarm system in place, they can be more free of worry and be themselves.

I do not mention my scares and nightmares. I do not want them to worry about me.

I know that both you and your son will be able to handle the results, whatever they are. You both have made such progress.

I am proud of you, Copa. Very proud!

My prayers are with you. Your warrior sisters are with you!
 

Feeling Sad

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Cedar, I forgot to thank you for your helpful ideas. It shows that you are a very good friend and that you are trying to make me feel safer.

The car alarm is a great idea. I had not thought of that. Thank you.

I do not think that I am able to own a taser. Regardless, I could not use it. Sorry. I think that I would pause...too long. But, mace I have.

I like the concept of Radical Acceptance. Thank you.

You are right. If I feel prepared, I will worry less. The part that is so difficult is realizing that I am preparing for the possible threat from my son trying to kill me. It is surreal...

But, I have to count my blessings.
 

Copabanana

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I think that that is the first time I mentioned my safety first.
I have been very sad.

Before I came home today, I stopped at the Supermarket Pharmacy to pick up my medicine. I thought to myself: I need a treat. I will buy a Seagrams Ice which is a beer that tastes like lemonade--which were not in their place on the shelf. I hailed a clerk to help me who was very kind. She made small chat, and I guess she asked me how I was.

Sad. I said. My mother died and I can't get over it.

Elisa was her name. So Elisa said: She must have been a wonderful mother.

Well, actually she was not. But the thing is, I loved her very, very much. I didn't know how much.

So Elisa said: Well. Enough sad. You must love yourself. Just like that. Love yourself. Do good things for yourself. (She looked at my face.) Like a makeover. Tell yourself, I love you, self.

I said, it is not so easy for me. How do you do it?

Elisa said: Well, I talk to the Lord all day. I am in management and people are always acting all stressed out. So, I am in conversation with the Lord. I say. Oh Lord, this and that. All day.

I have worked here 15 years. I am the only black person here. Do I feel bad about myself? Never. I love myself. Because I am worth it. It is a decision. You do the same. You are worth everything to you. Start now.

So Elisa would tell you, good, good work. You are important enough to be safe, and to feel safe, and happy and content, for you. And me too. And we need to practice it now.

COPA
 
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Feeling Sad

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Copa, that is one of the most beautiful and uplifting stories that I have ever heard.

Thank you. It IS a choice and WE ARE worth it! What are wonderful woman and such a pure message.

It is 3 AM and I was feeling very hopeless.

As always, you found the exact wording to inspire and comfort. It made me feel much better. I will probably be able to rest now.

Take care, my dear friend.
 

New Leaf

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Yes, I feel that we are getting better. It is very difficult to talk about it and to accept it as being reality. But, you are right. I am standing up for my safety and my youngest son's safety.
My prayers are with you. Your warrior sisters are with you!
A song for my warrior sisters (to be played very, very loudly, turn your volume up girls)


Leafy
 

Copabanana

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I love myself. Because I am worth it. It is a decision. You do the same.
Thank you. It IS a choice and WE ARE worth it! What are wonderful woman and such a pure message.
I think what we are living is both hard and complicated to unravel and address.

It feels like we are dealing with a contemporary struggle or problem which is external to us.

At the same time we are dealing with a historical condition and its aftereffects which to some extent formed us, and at the same time limits us.

The manner in which this historical condition shaped us is itself multi-faceted and powerful. Because it has fueled our successes in the world. The focus on others. What we see as pleasing in our personalities. Much of what we have relied upon for self-esteem. Taking responsibility. Self-denial.

In my case, sometimes when I try to do something good for me, I get anxious or I embody an element of self-destructiveness in whatever good thing I do. Like buying online where half the stuff arrives and is junk and I have to spend hours and days returning it, if I can. Or when it arrives and is junk I attack myself for only deserving junk. It seems like it accuses me. See? You can't even want things right. Not like Mama who bought sensibly and well. Beautiful things for herself.

I think that this endeavor of ours has to embody working through the reality of self-care. Consistent and global self-care, inside ourselves and in our worlds. Because that is the thing we had to sacrifice in our childhoods.

I confess I did not one thing in the commitments I made a month or so ago, for medical appointments, walking, etc.

That is what I am talking about.

COPA
 

Feeling Sad

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Thank you, Leafy. Perfect...just perfect.

Enjoy your day in paradise. I am going to find the positives...the blessings...the joys in my life.

YES, I am the DRIVER!
 

Feeling Sad

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I did not do one medical or health commitment either.

I agree with you. We cannot rip out our personalities or self-concept...it makes up who we are.

It is like dieting. You cannot go without food. You still have to eat to survive...to live.

Rather, we must choose very, very carefully the psychological 'foods' that we will allow into our thoughts or actions. We modify our choices and the amounts.

I cannot completely cut out some negative 'foods' or thoughts. But, I can try to limit the amount and how often it is allowed each day.

But, the positive 'foods' for thoughts and actions, I may partake in all day, every day, in unlimited amounts.

Something like carrots, ladies. Carrots do not hurt me and do not make me gain weight. They provide healthy nutrients and vitamins to my body.

Positive thoughts helps our body. It never hurts our bodies or causes stress or lack of sleep.

Rather, it fortifies our bodies, we have more energy, we work better, we sleep better, and we are better equipped to face the challenges of the day.

We are happier, healthier...and can LIVE.

At first, it might be difficult to put healthy 'foods' or thoughts into our body. It might even seem foreign. But, it can be done, little by little, until we slowly transform into a healthier, happier person.

So, cut down on the 'fudge', ladies, and slowly increase your 'carrots'. You might have a habit reaching for 'fudge', but in time, very slowly, reaching for 'carrots' will become a healthy habit.

I was really struggling with this....Please feel free to replace carrots with something equally healthy and low in calories.

No, cake and carrots both start with a 'C', but they are not the same...
 

New Leaf

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How did you find such a perfect song?
I am an unregistered student of Google University.

Also, if you go to Youtube and type in stuff, you can find all sorts of neat things.

I am an over- Youtuber here, I will probably be punished.

But, I can't help myself. I love the way music makes me feel. :flirtysmile3:

I must confess, driving to work yesterday, this song came on the radio.
I blasted it, and thought of Feeling, and all of us, and cried.

I didn't know the title of the song, so in between the school day madness and the flu clinic, I googled "fear, driving song" KABOOM, there it was!

So this is my challenge to you girls, find some songs that move you and post them!

Leafy
 
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