your girls were in a bevy of kids. there was not the same opportunity to have solitary conversatiion. in some ways that is a good thing.
A bevy of kids, yes, very accurate. Some not even my own, friends, nieces, nephews. I have oft thought of those on this site with an only child
way-finding. I don't like to write lost anymore. I didn't put it in the same context as you have here, more that how difficult it must be for a parent. To have such a relationship, that closeness. Then navigate these waters. I have comfort with my three, but there is of course still that feeling that something is missing. A hole. Okay sometimes a chasm.
father as i recall was indulgent. you it seems had to take responsibility for boundaries.
Hubs struggled, Rain was his favorite. He was caught up, as was I, with our grands. For him, coming out of a difficult life growing up with an abusive, addicted father, all he wanted was a better life for his children, grandchildren. Rain triangulated, and he clung to her. It was hard. I had to set boundaries for myself and my son. It all has not been fair to him. Or, any of us. Nonetheless a lesson? Are we all learning lessons here?
they will seek you out. i believe the yearning for you will wake up in them.. it is there but they are not listening. it is easier to push it away. for now. than to feel.
I suppose this is true, Copa. For me, as well as them, that it is easier to push it away. I have had to build a wall to ward off the pain of it. It eeks out in my daily life, the pain, headaches, stomach aches, anxiousness that translates into misplacing things, keys, forgetfulness. That is my challenge. I can wrap my head around it (some days not), but I can feel my body reacting to the angst. That is my challenge. To become more present.
your girls are young. you are too. in your posts i hear a mellowing. of your girls. you are opening. slowly. surely. with strength. from strength.
there is time.
You know Copa, I wrote yesterday of our thoughts and whatnot having power. I have been praying a lot for my two on my walks, working out my feelings, trying to find peace in faith that things will happen in time.
WHAM!
Comes a call from Tornado, out of the blue.
The radar Pasa wrote of. I don't think Tornado has a clue of how her choices have affected everyone. She is stuck at 16, I think, as is Rain.
"I'm coming into town."
My mind races, I am glad to hear her voice, at least she is alive, and then there is a certain..........dread. We were not going to be home. So, son meticulously closes and locks the windows. I suppose I have been doing this inwardly, locking up those places in my heart that would lead me into the swirley whirley.
"Lest I become cold."
It is a fine line between protecting self, and becoming hardened, calloused. I have mellowed in the sense that I will not allow myself to become entrenched and so wrapped up in the drama. I have yet to find a place where I can fully open my heart. Maybe in the same way you write of your mother, I of hubs.
“Hey, you’ve got to hide your love away.......”
I suppose there are many degrees of love and loving.
Protecting the heart.
WHAM!
Hoku calls last night "Rain is sick, high fever, she asked me to bring her tylenol........." I was out and agreed to meet her at the park.
It has been a month or so since I have seen Rain. She is sitting on the park bathroom lanai area, on the bench. Shivering, folded up, holding her head. Just like the picture I have of Persophone
I say to her that perhaps she needs to go to the hospital to which she refuses and says "I don't just want to be dumped some place."
"I will stay with you"
At first, it seemed she might go, then pulled back again.
I offer to bring her to the house, for a hot shower, and rest.......
she refuses.
She takes the Tylenol and I feel her head, cold and clammy, kiss her and tell her I love her.
I leave, my heart is pounding and I can feel myself falling, falling.........then I breathe. I visualize myself floating on my back, on a calm sea, rather than that old post where I was deep under the blue ocean,
drowning.
Jedi mind tricks.
It takes a huge concerted effort to calm myself.
This is me, working things through in my head.........“Leafy stop going to the extreme...... she is sick, it does not mean she is
dying.
Breathe and think things through.
1. She called for help. So there is still a connection.
2. She is alive, not well,(in more ways than one) but alive.
3. We went to her and offered help.
4. Choices, it was her choice to stay in the park.
5. There is always prayer.
A big dose of “It is what it is” just slapped me upside my head.
It is not easy.
If I go down with each and every issue, I am not helping anybody.
It’s been a long time Copa. 25 years. Had issues from 13, which regressed to having to make her leave the house at 18. Ups and downs, not as entirely traumatic as the past 10 years.
Ouch.
After this latest encounter, I feel strong enough (I think) to have a go at checking on her from time to time.
For me as much as her.
Baby steps.
Sigh.
Those painful experiences have built up quite the Star Trekkian deflector shield around my heart.
Then I am reminded of this
“As soon as you honor the present moment, all unhappiness and struggle dissolve, and life begins to flow with joy and ease. When you act out the present-moment awareness, whatever you do becomes imbued with a sense of quality, care and love-even the most simple action.”
Eckhart Tolle
So, maybe the past with my daughters has taught me enough that I can “tiptoe through the tulips” once again and try, without feeling like I am going off to the sacrificial alter? We shall see.
by doing what we do--prayer, walks, growing wisdom, self-care, self-contained living, we become irresistable.
Maybe irresistible? Only time will tell. I am still guarded because of the history of this. They are dangerous for me, to borrow a line from you.
I would be relieved to know that they were doing better, living better, even if we didn’t have a relationship, you know? Could I bargain for that? “You can still blame me for everything, just please, do better........”
Then there is still the hole, um, chasm.
I can then get my own "heart" right with thankfulness. Only then am I able to take action on what's needful for boundaries and appropriate support for my son in a realistic and practical way, leaving emotion and turmoil and despair out of it.
Oh Kalahou, how I needed to read this, last night. Spot on sister.
Leaving emotion and turmoil and despair out. Being realistic and practical.
I think I need to create a banner of those thoughts, and a tattoo.
Thank you Copa for addressing my issues with my two in the midst of your conversation with your son. From what you have written, things are beginning to look up for him.
Yay. Truly, Yay! I am so happy for all of you.
By the way, I went to Costco last night, too.
Thanks for listening gang.
I probably should have made my own thread........sorry for hijacking yours Copa!
(Hugs)
Leafy